[Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
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It did, since the majority didn't support your ammendment. Ergo: the proposal failed due to a lack of support. It's quite ridiculous to refuse to accept the outcome of a democratic vote in order to pursue your own, controversial, ideas.Duke Sinclair wrote:The facts speak for themselves. This proposal obviously did not fail due to a lack of support. With that in mind, you can rest assured that I will continue to fight for this amendment. This issue is far from resolved.
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Eh, when you consider that two of the nations given a chance to vote are actually dead, and one nation only voted to abstain because he didn't want to upset his neighbors, the proposal actually received somewhere between 50 and 53% approval amongst all members.Jack wrote:It did, since the majority didn't support your ammendment. Ergo: the proposal failed due to a lack of support. It's quite ridiculous to refuse to accept the outcome of a democratic vote in order to pursue your own, controversial, ideas.Duke Sinclair wrote:The facts speak for themselves. This proposal obviously did not fail due to a lack of support. With that in mind, you can rest assured that I will continue to fight for this amendment. This issue is far from resolved.
Who said I'm not respecting the outcome of this vote? All I said was that the proposal actually did have majority support amongst voters, and that therefore, there's no reason to let the issue drop. This vote is over, and this proposed amendment did not pass. Fine, I respect that, and I can continue to respect that, even while continuing to press for another vote on a similar amendment. That isn't undemocratic.
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Yes, and I have sources which actually link the other 47% to an international hivemind of lizard people who swayed their governments through use of black mail and abduction.Eh, when you consider that two of the nations given a chance to vote are actually dead, and one nation only voted to abstain because he didn't want to upset his neighbors, the proposal actually received somewhere between 50 and 53% approval amongst all members.
Okay, that wasn't very nice but really? Your going to insist that the bill technically passed because reasons? One in which you insist that one vote was really meant to be in favour but they just couldn't because they didn't want to upset someone. And as for the dead countries, maybe you should have waited for them to be marked off the members list or, better yet, propose it yourself.
I'm not one for economics but that little story you told crossed the line of reason. Want my advice? Advertise and prove your system will benefit us all in a smaller sandbox. Well those are my two cents. Later.
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Where did I say that the proposal technically passed? Can you quote me on that?
Regarding your note about dead nations though, youre right that I should have waited to propose this until after they were removed.
Regarding your note about dead nations though, youre right that I should have waited to propose this until after they were removed.
""YJD: Een Recwar is prima zolang Bijaro niet deelneemt."
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Your wording implied that you are under the impression that, contrary to the published results, the actual percentage in favour is somewhere between 50 and 53. If this were to be the case and implemented officially as such, the bill would have either passed or required the vote going overtime (the latter would occur if it was at 50%). Now then, I don't have anything else to offer here so I will take my leave.
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Oh, no. If I thought it had technically passed I would have said so explicitly. I acknowledge the outcome of this vote, though I also maintain that this vote does not actually reflect true levels of support, and on that basis, I will continue to press this issue.Ryker wrote:Your wording implied that you are under the impression that, contrary to the published results, the actual percentage in favour is somewhere between 50 and 53. If this were to be the case and implemented officially as such, the bill would have either passed or required the vote going overtime (the latter would occur if it was at 50%). Now then, I don't have anything else to offer here so I will take my leave.
This sentiment conveys to me that you unfortunately aren't that clear on what was actually proposed and voted on here. I wasn't proposing a new system that would need to be tested and tried out in a "smaller sandbox." I was proposing a minor alteration to the existing system, which would better help to facilitate the purpose and function of the existing system. I had hoped this was clear.I'm not one for economics but that little story you told crossed the line of reason. Want my advice? Advertise and prove your system will benefit us all in a smaller sandbox. Well those are my two cents. Later.
""YJD: Een Recwar is prima zolang Bijaro niet deelneemt."
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I regret my misunderstanding. (It has become very clear to me that I am not in a good mood right now so please excuse any sass I may have given you)
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A victory for common sense.
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Now just Vilhelm Benkern, Count of Mar Sara
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Im curious as to what you find unreasonable about this proposal, benkern.
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So, if I'm getting this right, Duke will come with a new proposal that is almost similar to this one after the inactive nations are removed, hoping that this proposal will pass then. That's not what I call respecting the outcome of a vote.
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Not respecting this vote would be saying "fuck you, this passes anyway just because I want it to." Im obviously not doing that. It is perfectly possible to respect the outcome of this vote, while continuing to press the issue, even going so far as to propose the amendment again, while in no way undermining the outcome of this vote.
""YJD: Een Recwar is prima zolang Bijaro niet deelneemt."