[Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
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[Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
As part of our initiatives, I invite individuals (not just official representatives) from across Micras to contribute to this dialogue.
Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
Making the MTO relevant will be challenging, but I don't think it's impossible. The MTO is the only organization existing right now that can provide an international-level venue for all Micran nations... both in Bastion and outside of it. I think this is the best chance of bridging the divide between Bastion and non-Bastion micronations, and fostering a community-wide point of view/thought instead of a more insular Bastion v. Non-Bastion. I think that MTO could also potentially be a bit of a UN-esque organization in that it could serve as a standardizer of things on Micras - such as map use (MCS centric), the weather, measurements, etc. MTO is poised to be the best community venue for general standardization. Members could simply choose to opt-in the standardization by passing the treaty or agreement that standardizes X or Y thing. That way nations who do not want to be part of that aspect can still join. (I think this should be the approach to most big ticket items. Treaties or agreements that people can sign if they want to be part of it, etc.) I think to do that, we should pursue areas that encourage dialogue and consensus. Kind of like, "okay, we all agree never to hack into each other's forums or use forum based weaponry, okay?" And everyone says, "Okay." That's easy for all participants to agree. Slowly build up to more complicated matters, so on, so forth.
To make the MTO relevant I think we really need to attract stakeholders - a serious campaign trying to get more nations in Micras to join is a must. Also, we need to attract community stakeholders. Why isn't the Craitman as head of the MCS some sort of important MTO official as well? He leads the largest and most important community-wide organization! The SCUE Administrator too, since he is the head of the only micronational economic simulation, he should be involved too somehow.
To make the MTO relevant I think we really need to attract stakeholders - a serious campaign trying to get more nations in Micras to join is a must. Also, we need to attract community stakeholders. Why isn't the Craitman as head of the MCS some sort of important MTO official as well? He leads the largest and most important community-wide organization! The SCUE Administrator too, since he is the head of the only micronational economic simulation, he should be involved too somehow.
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
The Island Federation of Gong and Jingdao feels that the MTO is currently meeting our needs.
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I share Alexandria's optimistic view of the MTO's potential. Like all micronational projects it will require a passionate person steering things along the way. I'd be in favor of an expansion of MTO membership. Do we really need to vote on new members if new members are only bound to the General Treaty?
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
Yes, for as long as that is a requirement of the Treaty (clause 2).Nathan wrote:Do we really need to vote on new members if new members are only bound to the General Treaty?
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
I meant hypothetically. Is there a need for the MTO to have controlled admissions if all supporting treaties are opt-in?
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
I agree that controlled admissions are no longer needed. The MTO needs to be an all-inclusive and welcoming organization if it is ever to succeed in maintaining relevance to the community for more than six months. If a new Micras micronation wishes to join, why force it to go through an admission process that may very well take several months to conclude depending on the activity of current members? Adopting the Treaty locally should result in automatic membership; anything else makes the MTO an Old Boys Club structure.Nathan wrote:I meant hypothetically. Is there a need for the MTO to have controlled admissions if all supporting treaties are opt-in?
I can understand the desire to emulate the United Nations (which has been the model for all YAMOs), but we're not in a community where we need to guard against recognizing the "wrong" micronation by allowing it to gain membership.
Furthermore, I support the idea mentioned that the MTO / MCS / SCUE should be looking at greater cooperation, if not integration. These three main IMOs serving the Micras community should be working closer together and using the same practices for common policies (such as declaring a micronation "dead"). I think that the "next big step" for Micras may very well be creating a system of interconnected/integrated IMOs that efficiently provide common services (for example, when your micronation signs up for the MCS perhaps it should automatically receive a SCUE account?)
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While I broadly support expediting the process, I would suggest some degree of caution here. There is no inherent reason why four people can't create eleven nations between them.
(Eleven is the maximum if each nation has at least two members and no two nations have exactly the same set of members: AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD, ABC, ABD, ACD, BCD, ABCD.)
(Eleven is the maximum if each nation has at least two members and no two nations have exactly the same set of members: AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD, ABC, ABD, ACD, BCD, ABCD.)
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
At the same time, there's no way four people in our community, with their macronational obligations and level of motivation, can keep that many micronations effectively going just for the sake of having a few more votes at MTO for any "negative agenda"(it's been more than a decade since the community interacted in such a way for any truly malicious reason, petty bickering between certain members aside). The benefits of open membership outweigh the negatives.Sonata Green wrote:While I broadly support expediting the process, I would suggest some degree of caution here. There is no inherent reason why four people can't create eleven nations between them.
(Eleven is the maximum if each nation has at least two members and no two nations have exactly the same set of members: AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD, ABC, ABD, ACD, BCD, ABCD.)
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
But what degree of "effectively going", exactly, is required in order to qualify for membership? Currently, only sincere micronations have membership; but with open membership, there's the incentive to create bare-minimum-effort "fake" nations, like shell corporations.
Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
Yes. The other treaties can be signed without a vote, if a nation could enter the MTO and then also the STNA in one go, that could limit the effectiveness of the latter treaty. Another solution would of course be to amend the entry-procedures into the individual treaties. It would also be an option to limit entry to Micras nations, which isn't currently the case.Nathan wrote:I meant hypothetically. Is there a need for the MTO to have controlled admissions if all supporting treaties are opt-in?
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Re: [Roundtable] What can the MTO do for you?
Ergonia may be interested in joining the MTO, given its new horizons.