Proposed Character Registry Treaty
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Proposed Character Registry Treaty
This treaty will give us some security to prevent character impersonations and rogue characters.MTO Character Registry Treaty
1. Any nation who has signed the General Membership Treaty may sign this MTO Character Registry Treaty.
2. Upon the signing of this treaty, the signatory nation must agree to only recognize as valid, for the purposes of diplomacy and rec-war, statements and actions made by characters who have been registered in a central listing of characters to be maintained on the MTO organization's online forums by volunteers nominated and approved by a majority of nations that have signed this treaty or by acclamation if unopposed by any signatory nation.
3. The central listing of characters must indicate the nation or nations to which a character is registered, the rank of authority of that character in each nation (to indicate to what extent that character's statements may be overruled by another character in that nation), and the name of the character's author or authors, and any other relevant information to identify the character as belonging to a nation or nations.
4. Each signatory nation must approve of any new characters registered to it in the registry.
5. For privacy reason the central listing of characters may omit the real life name of the character's author and use a commonly recognized nom de plume instead.
6. Non-compliance with this treaty shall be punishable by exclusion from diplomacy and rec-war participation of an a character's author or authors or of any signatory nation that allows or condones such behavior; duration of punishment shall be decided upon by the approved volunteers elected to maintain the registry and posted publicly on the registry.
7. Unregistered characters may still be used. However their statements and actions shall have no validity or relevance with respect to diplomacy and/or rec-war.
8. Signatory nations may withdraw from this treaty at any time.
9. This treaty may be modified by the agreement of 3/4s of signatory nations.
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Re: Proposed Character Registry Treaty
...says a person from the nation that, had this treaty been in place justJezza Rasmus wrote:ROFLOL
over a year ago, would have stunningly and incredibly violated Article 6
by both protecting and assisting, as much as they possibly could, an rogue
(and inaccurate) impersonation of an Ergonian navy officer.
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We reject that sentiment.
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Although I don't disagree with the sentiment, I do not feel the need for such a registry.
Porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra.
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We urgently must approve this treaty if there is to be any point
to diplomacy and rec-war. Who knows when the next fraudulent
character or rogue impersonator will arise? Again, if we do not
approve this treaty, we are setting our entire world of Micras up
for grabs.
Remember, what happened once can happen again. Why do
we have all of these other treaties in place? It is to make our
hobby more elegant and coordinated and fun and entertaining.
Rules require more work and caution, but they are supposed
to prevent worse things when properly considered.
to diplomacy and rec-war. Who knows when the next fraudulent
character or rogue impersonator will arise? Again, if we do not
approve this treaty, we are setting our entire world of Micras up
for grabs.
Remember, what happened once can happen again. Why do
we have all of these other treaties in place? It is to make our
hobby more elegant and coordinated and fun and entertaining.
Rules require more work and caution, but they are supposed
to prevent worse things when properly considered.
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My understanding is that the MTO is a largely if not wholly 'IC' organisation, so this seems to violate that a little bit by clearly trying to create some RL community legislation through this YAMO - but a good idea is a good idea, so let's discuss it.
Shireroth maintains a register for its citizens, and I suppose other equally paranoiac nations may also; Bastion as a whole also used to maintain a self-reported community list of characters. This is because it's handy to have lists of who everyone is so you don't constantly have to wonder, or ask, or decipher from written style/images used etc., or even abuse your admin powers to check IPs! It fosters a sense that everyone is 'in on' the story by clearly identifying the players in the drama. And it prevents misunderstandings.
Having an even more international version of this character list seems to be like a huge endeavour, and would probably struggle to get many (any?) to participate; but it could easily simply be hosted here in a sticked topic in Hub.mn General Discussion. No MTO involvement at all would be necessary or helpful.
As to IC diplomacy/ rec-war stuff - in real life, governments often use people from other nations, or posing as people from other nations, as scapegoats, so why should this be any different? There's a degree of godmodding we might wish to preclude (Tsingtao Govt: "An Ergonian battleship crashed into our port city killing 10,000" Ergonioid: "We're a landlocked nation without a navy") but that again wouldn't benefit from anal rules about the terms of participation. Mutual respect is essential for collaborative activity. We don't need to like each other (though I hasten to add that many of us do), but we at least need to recognise each other as people behind keyboards with hopes, dreams, and obsessions about the colours of pixels.
I'd also add that there are such things in RL and Micras as recognised plenipotentiaries and the accreditation of diplomatic representatives - if a country is being misrepresented abroad, that country may make it clear that no-one other than a stated person or group of persons are capable of speaking on their behalf. This, I fear, would never work for Shireroth, but may work for others.
Shireroth maintains a register for its citizens, and I suppose other equally paranoiac nations may also; Bastion as a whole also used to maintain a self-reported community list of characters. This is because it's handy to have lists of who everyone is so you don't constantly have to wonder, or ask, or decipher from written style/images used etc., or even abuse your admin powers to check IPs! It fosters a sense that everyone is 'in on' the story by clearly identifying the players in the drama. And it prevents misunderstandings.
Having an even more international version of this character list seems to be like a huge endeavour, and would probably struggle to get many (any?) to participate; but it could easily simply be hosted here in a sticked topic in Hub.mn General Discussion. No MTO involvement at all would be necessary or helpful.
As to IC diplomacy/ rec-war stuff - in real life, governments often use people from other nations, or posing as people from other nations, as scapegoats, so why should this be any different? There's a degree of godmodding we might wish to preclude (Tsingtao Govt: "An Ergonian battleship crashed into our port city killing 10,000" Ergonioid: "We're a landlocked nation without a navy") but that again wouldn't benefit from anal rules about the terms of participation. Mutual respect is essential for collaborative activity. We don't need to like each other (though I hasten to add that many of us do), but we at least need to recognise each other as people behind keyboards with hopes, dreams, and obsessions about the colours of pixels.
I'd also add that there are such things in RL and Micras as recognised plenipotentiaries and the accreditation of diplomatic representatives - if a country is being misrepresented abroad, that country may make it clear that no-one other than a stated person or group of persons are capable of speaking on their behalf. This, I fear, would never work for Shireroth, but may work for others.
Formerly His Imperial Niftiness Yardistanislaus du Grifos, former Kaiser of Shireroth
Now just Vilhelm Benkern, Count of Mar Sara
Suzerain of Hawshire // Peil̊åkti an Ixraǔtn | Protector of the Safir // Xonuti Shawa 'allumi Sanilla'i'i | King of the Free State of Sanilla
Now just Vilhelm Benkern, Count of Mar Sara
Suzerain of Hawshire // Peil̊åkti an Ixraǔtn | Protector of the Safir // Xonuti Shawa 'allumi Sanilla'i'i | King of the Free State of Sanilla
Re: Proposed Character Registry Treaty
In fact, I believe that is not all too uncommon. I recall that Jingdao made up a letter of credentials on its own forum, to which our diplomat referred when he asked for his position as ambassador to Flanders to be recognized by the local government. Likewise, the government of Flanders issued letters of credentials for their ambassador to us. That requirement is part of the treaty we have.
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It may be worth remembering that Ergonia was not exactly well-regarded at the time when this happened, and that had a bearing on the willingness of others to believe its protests of innocence, however justified they were in this case. As the Jingdao-wallah noted, most sensible countries will issue letter of credence or at the very least publish an announcement when appointing a spokesman or diplomat which can be referred to in the case of any doubt or dispute. Similarly, most sensible countries would denounce an impostor rather than implode.GilesMelang wrote:
Remember, what happened once can happen again.
I do not see the scope for an exact replay of the incident.
All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.
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This is the answer. Everyone makes their own post and lists their own characters, so they can continually edit their own post, that way it's not dependent on mods updating the list like on Bastion.Benkern wrote: but it could easily simply be hosted here in a stickied topic in Hub.mn General Discussion. No MTO involvement at all would be necessary or helpful.
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Representative Benkern and The Secretary-General have brought
up a constructive solution, to which I am amendable as meeting
my concerns.
Does anyone have an idea of a good place this thread should go on these
hub.mn forums?
Also, I table my proposal for the treaty. That said, it is drafted and ready
to go if it is still needed in the future.
up a constructive solution, to which I am amendable as meeting
my concerns.
Does anyone have an idea of a good place this thread should go on these
hub.mn forums?
Also, I table my proposal for the treaty. That said, it is drafted and ready
to go if it is still needed in the future.