The most complete set of planetary data yet!
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The most complete set of planetary data yet!
I've been working on this the last couple of days, as it seems as though nobody's actually done it yet! Hope people like it!
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Nicely done. I seem to recall either Spangle or Bill doing this once, but that data has long been lost.
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I probably still have such a list on my old hard drive. Will take a look when I have time.Orion wrote:Nicely done. I seem to recall either Spangle or Bill doing this once, but that data has long been lost.
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Do we have any information regarding the distance between each planet and Atos? I'm trying to run an Atos simulation in Universe Sandbox 2, and I can't make these numbers work together without having more specific info regarding scale.
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There should be. Bill had an excel file with all that kind of information. I should have the file lying around somewhere. Will try to take a look tomorrow.
Interesting program you're using. I read it can calculate the climate on a planet. I'm curious if that's possible for Micras too.
Interesting program you're using. I read it can calculate the climate on a planet. I'm curious if that's possible for Micras too.
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Cool, sounds good. Right now I am using the semi major axis to infer distance. I'm not sure if that makes any true scientific sense, but it seems to work. The planets are showing up in roughly the correct order using that info
Edit: It is definitely a neat program. Yes, it can calculate broad climate data. That's on my list of things to figure out
Edit: It is definitely a neat program. Yes, it can calculate broad climate data. That's on my list of things to figure out
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I've done a few simulations now, sticking as close to these figures as I can, and I have consistently run into two or three issues within the first few decades. Bear in mind that, given my general lack of knowledge in this field, I'm making a few assumptions here.
The first issue is that due to its relative mass and distance from Indigo, Momiji maintains its own orbit around Atos, rather than falling into a direct orbit around its co-planet. This causes what may be best described a sort of rhythmical, pulsing orbital interaction. This interaction disrupts the orbit of the two smaller moons to the extent that one of them either drifts out of orbit to become an asteroid, and/or one of them quickly ends up colliding with Momiji. In my current simulation, both of these events have occurred, with Ivory as the surviving moon.
The second issue is that Chrysos and Thalassa have an apparent tendency to collide with one another. Though I haven't seen it happen, it's clear that the two planets have effectively bounced each other out of the system, leaving behind all of their moons as asteroids in the inner system. These two planets, it seems, may be too close together. I'm clearly a novice when it comes to this stuff, but I'm pretty sure that in reality, two gas giants would not simply bounce off of each other if they collided...
Aside from these two issues, everything else looks pretty good...Micras is habitable. Here are some screenshots to give you some idea of the state of things in my current simulation, which I've run for around 25 years. Please excuse the lack of scale.
Start of Simulation
http://i.imgur.com/GWIwhkj.png
http://i.imgur.com/KTX2nl7.png
~25 Years into Simulation
http://i.imgur.com/wpkWlDl.png
http://i.imgur.com/LMctnp5.png
The first issue is that due to its relative mass and distance from Indigo, Momiji maintains its own orbit around Atos, rather than falling into a direct orbit around its co-planet. This causes what may be best described a sort of rhythmical, pulsing orbital interaction. This interaction disrupts the orbit of the two smaller moons to the extent that one of them either drifts out of orbit to become an asteroid, and/or one of them quickly ends up colliding with Momiji. In my current simulation, both of these events have occurred, with Ivory as the surviving moon.
The second issue is that Chrysos and Thalassa have an apparent tendency to collide with one another. Though I haven't seen it happen, it's clear that the two planets have effectively bounced each other out of the system, leaving behind all of their moons as asteroids in the inner system. These two planets, it seems, may be too close together. I'm clearly a novice when it comes to this stuff, but I'm pretty sure that in reality, two gas giants would not simply bounce off of each other if they collided...
Aside from these two issues, everything else looks pretty good...Micras is habitable. Here are some screenshots to give you some idea of the state of things in my current simulation, which I've run for around 25 years. Please excuse the lack of scale.
Start of Simulation
http://i.imgur.com/GWIwhkj.png
http://i.imgur.com/KTX2nl7.png
~25 Years into Simulation
http://i.imgur.com/wpkWlDl.png
http://i.imgur.com/LMctnp5.png
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You deserve a price, good sir.
As long as they don't collide with us, huh.The second issue is that Chrysos and Thalassa have an apparent tendency to collide with one another. Though I haven't seen it happen, it's clear that the two planets have effectively bounced each other out of the system, leaving behind all of their moons as asteroids in the inner system. These two planets, it seems, may be too close together. I'm clearly a novice when it comes to this stuff, but I'm pretty sure that in reality, two gas giants would not simply bounce off of each other if they collided...
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*affixes a price tag reading ABOUT TREE FIDDY to Queen Esper*Jonas Windsor wrote:You deserve a price, good sir.
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