Toki "secret attack" on Shilton
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summary: Shilton's military installations (including all airports, and many planes stationed in them), defense systems, and government buildings are destroyed in an approved sneak attack. Any resistance gunned down without question. a lawn gnome is left in the town square.A massive explosion ripped the air, and a giant wall of smoke could be seen raising up from Shilton, accompanied by the wail of sirens and the screams of people. several buildings fell to the ground, as the sight suddenly vanished. The sniper lowered the binoculars from his eyes, turned around, and grimaced as he walked away from the ruined city.
my casualties: 1 lawn gnome. 10 infantry MIA, 10 snipers MIA.
Shilton casualties: as above- 80% of all planes stationed there, 90% of all military facilities, 100% airports, 60% gov't buildings.
note: shilton casualties listed are only the targeted ones. actual casualties to be posted by those within shilton residence.
The very lives of those supposed attackers is in doubt, considering the ongoing debate over the bombing of Hamuji, so no.Longbow of Tokidoki wrote:summary: Shilton's military installations (including all airports, and many planes stationed in them), defense systems, and government buildings are destroyed in an approved sneak attack. Any resistance gunned down without question. a lawn gnome is left in the town square.A massive explosion ripped the air, and a giant wall of smoke could be seen raising up from Shilton, accompanied by the wail of sirens and the screams of people. several buildings fell to the ground, as the sight suddenly vanished. The sniper lowered the binoculars from his eyes, turned around, and grimaced as he walked away from the ruined city.
my casualties: 1 lawn gnome. 10 infantry MIA, 10 snipers MIA.
Shilton casualties: as above- 80% of all planes stationed there, 90% of all military facilities, 100% airports, 60% gov't buildings.
note: shilton casualties listed are only the targeted ones. actual casualties to be posted by those within shilton residence.
Also, a 'sneak attack' does not mean you get to dictate damages, it just means you aren't detected prior to the attack, so go back to the drawing board. Also, with an entire Army Corps stationed there (I can provide evidence to the judges to that effect), you wouldn't be gunning down any resistance 'without question'. Also, how do you propose to get there secretly past a heavily defended and observed border, patrols of land and air, etc. etc. *sigh*
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_Clearly_ that's exactly what I said. Grow up. Perhaps if your (not personal, mind) attacks were in keeping with the rules *see above* then they might be accepted. TBF, I've not studied every MI attack, but if they've all been like ^that^ farce, then i'm not surprised that they've all been debated.Demon of the North wrote:what is there no one whos not MI who can take a hit? come on the only MI attack that has done any damage without a debate was the attack on fort Jericho but now it seems that never happened.
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enough said right there. that is what they were told to hit, not necessarily what they actually hit.Longbow of Tokidoki wrote: note: shilton casualties listed are only the targeted ones. actual casualties to be posted by those within shilton residence.
and these men are specifically trained to sneak in, plant explosives, and sneak out. thats what they have been doing for their entire military career. they would spend time watching for shift changes, weak points, possible assassinations, etc. as i said, all they do is sneak in and out of places. they use diversions, assassinations, nonlethal methods, etc. and how is there an entire army corp. i have not seen any posts as to there being entire armys stationed there, but if you can prove me wrong with a post in the war forum as concrete evidence, things may change
No, your men have been bombed in Hamuji. Chances are that they were dead before they even 'launched' this attack. Therefore, this attack did not happen until the issue over Hamuji is resolved.Longbow of Tokidoki wrote:enough said right there. that is what they were told to hit, not necessarily what they actually hit.Longbow of Tokidoki wrote: note: shilton casualties listed are only the targeted ones. actual casualties to be posted by those within shilton residence.
Haha. Yeah, sneak in and out over 175 miles, into a city filled to the brim with 11,500 veteran soldiers and then an entire tank battalion, on a war footing no less and not get spotted? What were they using, invisibility potions? Please.and these men are specifically trained to sneak in, plant explosives, and sneak out. thats what they have been doing for their entire military career. they would spend time watching for shift changes, weak points, possible assassinations, etc. as i said, all they do is sneak in and out of places. they use diversions, assassinations, nonlethal methods, etc. and how is there an entire army corp. i have not seen any posts as to there being entire armys stationed there, but if you can prove me wrong with a post in the war forum as concrete evidence, things may change
Pete can be provided more than sufficient evidence to show that there is an army unit there (2nd Army Corps, IIRC). You, however, can not. It would compromise our position.
And I'll point out again that you are not entitled to post damages.
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OOC: what i cant post my own casualties? I DIDNT POST ANY OF YOUR CASUALTIES!!! and no, my troops weren't bombed with the city, i pmed this attack 4 days ago. i think thats more than enough time to travel the distance. and if they were destroyed, so was the rest of my army, as they moved out at the same time (but not to the same place)
and i wont rest until you post evidence here, for all eyes to see. until then, i will assume that you're just making things up.
and 11,500 veteran soldiers? thats almost a full orbat, not counting the planes. unless they are worth .1 each, in which case my troops could sneak past easy.
and i wont rest until you post evidence here, for all eyes to see. until then, i will assume that you're just making things up.
and 11,500 veteran soldiers? thats almost a full orbat, not counting the planes. unless they are worth .1 each, in which case my troops could sneak past easy.
i say so, but explanation aboveDemon of the North wrote:and whos to say these "special forces" actually deployed in humaji?
Longbow of Tokidoki wrote:OOC: what i cant post my own casualties? I DIDNT POST ANY OF YOUR CASUALTIES!!!
Yes, well done, no damages posted there at all... hang on...summary: Shilton's military installations (including all airports, and many planes stationed in them), defense systems, and government buildings are destroyed in an approved sneak attack. Any resistance gunned down without question. a lawn gnome is left in the town square.
You moved your entire unit to Hamuji 3 days ago, including these supposed attackers. You may make one move per day in order that the enemy (us) has a chance to respond (hence the 24 hour rule). We did exactly that, and responded. Your men have not moved out by this time. We bombed you, you posted ridiculously low damages. This and its subsequent move are the ones under review. Therefore, you can't move your troops because it's undecided whether they're alive or dead.and no, my troops weren't bombed with the city, i pmed this attack 4 days ago. i think thats more than enough time to travel the distance. and if they were destroyed, so was the rest of my army, as they moved out at the same time (but not to the same place)
YOU WON'T REST?! My goodness. There is no requirement for you to see the evidence in question. Nor shall it be posted on an open forum. In fact, as we can see above, the attack can't have happened so I'm unwilling to show even judges unless it's entirely necessary, which it evidently isn't.and i wont rest until you post evidence here, for all eyes to see. until then, i will assume that you're just making things up.
No no no. We don't purchase veteran status. This unit is the same one that has been involved in the successful invasions of the Corporation, Woodstania, Taylor Bay (IIRC), Holzborg and Lovely.and 11,500 veteran soldiers? thats almost a full orbat, not counting the planes. unless they are worth .1 each, in which case my troops could sneak past easy.
Demon of the North,
Yes. Again, this evidence can be provided to judges if absolutely necessary. It isn't for prying eyes.did you ever say they had set up any kind of detection net or perimeter do you have guards or are they all of getting drunk in some tavern somewhere?
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miscounted the days. big whoop.
and i didnt post casualties, i posted WHAT THEIR OBJECTIVE [censored] WAS. i didnt say "50 troops shot, 50 tanks blown up" etc. i said that any resistance that they meet will be "dealt with" aka "killed"
and hey, i have yet to post any of my casualties for myself, or to the city im next to, without them being [censored] at.
and you couldnt respond to the troops moving- because IT WAS A STEALTH MISSION
and i didnt post casualties, i posted WHAT THEIR OBJECTIVE [censored] WAS. i didnt say "50 troops shot, 50 tanks blown up" etc. i said that any resistance that they meet will be "dealt with" aka "killed"
and hey, i have yet to post any of my casualties for myself, or to the city im next to, without them being [censored] at.
and you couldnt respond to the troops moving- because IT WAS A STEALTH MISSION
you said it yourself. i didn't have to tell you there were troops moving. just suck up a few casualties and move on.iehova wrote:Also, a 'sneak attack' does not mean you get to dictate damages, it just means you aren't detected prior to the attack
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unfortunatly your supposed to say they move into defensive positions or atleast tell the judges before something happens.iehova wrote:
Yes. Again, this evidence can be provided to judges if absolutely necessary. It isn't for prying eyes.did you ever say they had set up any kind of detection net or perimeter do you have guards or are they all of getting drunk in some tavern somewhere?
hence why monty's sub could get so close to my fleet and why i actually took causlties from the attack
You can not have launched the attack. You can not have launched the attack. You can not have launched the attack.Longbow of Tokidoki wrote:miscounted the days. big whoop.
and i didnt post casualties, i posted WHAT THEIR OBJECTIVE [censored] WAS. i didnt say "50 troops shot, 50 tanks blown up" etc. i said that any resistance that they meet will be "dealt with" aka "killed"
and hey, i have yet to post any of my casualties for myself, or to the city im next to, without them being [censored] at.
and you couldnt respond to the troops moving- because IT WAS A STEALTH MISSIONyou said it yourself. i didn't have to tell you there were troops moving. just suck up a few casualties and move on.iehova wrote:Also, a 'sneak attack' does not mean you get to dictate damages, it just means you aren't detected prior to the attack
How many times?
And you did post damages. Look at what you wrote for Pete's sake!
Right, now, the charter says:
There is a legitimate (albeit shaky in itself) reason that you may have been able to cross the 175 miles of heavily patrolled (and other things which you don't know about ) territory. There is also a legitimate reason that you would not have known about the 1st AC based in Shilton (you have no aerial recon, or of any other sort). Therefore, even had you been able to make the attack, you would have got into the city and found yourself confronted with thousands of armed and dangerous troops who have seen off a lot more than your piddly little unit.H. Actions can be made in secret only if there is a legitimate in-game reason and it makes sense.
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Can you guys dispute this ELSEWHERE please?
Andreas
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No. See Alexandria or New Britannia. Those measures have been in place since before the war. As I said, evidence is available to the judges. Not the opposing side.Demon of the North wrote:unfortunatly your supposed to say they move into defensive positions or atleast tell the judges before something happens.iehova wrote:
Yes. Again, this evidence can be provided to judges if absolutely necessary. It isn't for prying eyes.did you ever say they had set up any kind of detection net or perimeter do you have guards or are they all of getting drunk in some tavern somewhere?
hence why monty's sub could get so close to my fleet and why i actually took causlties from the attack