Freedom, Y/N
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Re: Freedom, Y/N
Because it doesn't exist. Just look at the EU map...chrimigules wrote:How is Wales not a nation?
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Oh, I don't know that it's not a nation. In fact, that's one of the terms we do sometimes use to describe it. In EU parlance, "nation" often means "distinct cultural subdivision" rather than "sovereign state" (or "scotland-style-sort-of-sem-sovereign-state").
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Re: Freedom, Y/N
Wales ceased to exist hundreds of years ago, it's simply a principality of merry olde England now
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But there are still Welsh people who speak Welsh. They're not like the Cornish or Manx who only pretend to speak their native (extinct) language.
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Re: Freedom, Y/N
People in Lincolnshire speak a warped unrecognisable language that makes sense to very few people outside of the county but that doesn't make us a nation
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Re: Freedom, Y/N
I'd struggle to call that English, half the English words that are there don't even mean the same thing...Nah then, Just a litt'l no-at tuh ell ya abart ma Uncle Jor. 'E went tuh see Ant Arriat in Clee-a-thorps. 'E went up by tray-on tuh Grimsby 'n then bah co-atch tuh Ant Arriats. 'E reckoned the ossies wur yocked up rong 'n shud av 'ad watter on tuh way. 'E was supprised wen Anty (shees mams sis) sed she was brewing some tea as she don't drink. 'E was disappointed wen she only mashed it, and more so when she was yakking so mutch that she ended up stewin it. 'E said she giv im sum doah cake but called it plum lo-aff. Anty didn't seem 'appy wen 'e poored tuh tea in saucer, bloo on it 'n dunked 'is lo-aff in it. She told 'im there was a 10 foot behind the 'ouse but wen 'e went out tuh luck at tuh fishin there was a lane not a drain. Anty ask 'im to mend tuh fire but 'e sed 'e saw nothin rong with it so cuddent repair it. 'E sed 'e fettled it wit a poker, riddled the ashes maid up the fire by stoking it with co-al 'n pulled out tuh damper. Anty wur pleased. After tuh tea Anty sed 'E shud go for a walk on tuh doons. Sum one had red Lorna Doone to 'im so went, al 'e cud find wur sand 'ills 'n when 'e asked the doons wur 'e was told 'e wur on the fitties
Re: Freedom, Y/N
Just because you fail to recognise the legitimacy of the former, doesn't mean it's not a nation.Neither Israel nor Wales are nations hence Epic Fail
Kurdistan isn't a recognised state, but to all intents and purposes, Northern Iraq is Kurdish Territory.
Just as Israel, with its five million citizens, government institutes, and international recognition from many nations has no right to be termed merely a 'military occupation' by toadying Western Arabist lackeys, who therefore condone the 'self-defence' of Palestinian Terrorists (and therefore in many occasions indirectly condone Al-Qaeda and Militant Islamism, the very antithesis of everything they claim to stand for) who decide to murder buses full of innocent civilians in Tel Aviv.
*phew*
I've had far too many discussions on Israel, so now I'll concentrate on Wales.
Wales most certainly is a nation- a distinct ethnic group with a unique culture- whether that nation has a state is another matter entirely.
For example, I would argue that Hungary is a nation-state, because it was created as the homeland of the Hungarian people, whereas Iraq was never a nation-state as such, it was just a State created to house the Assyrian, Arab, Kurdish, and Turcoman populations of Mesopotamia.
Wales is more legendary than England could ever be. Notably because they/we have the most beautiful, lyrical accent of all the Isles!
Now, Ashkenatza, on the other hand...
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Re: Freedom, Y/N
Well, if you're going to spell like that, of course one can't understand. That's what school is for. People from Lincolnshire aren't so hard to understand. Thatcher is coherent.
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Re: Freedom, Y/N
Yes. It's drummed into us at a very young age by such strange-looking characters as 'Mistar Urdd':chrimigules wrote:But there are still Welsh people who speak Welsh. They're not like the Cornish or Manx who only pretend to speak their native (extinct) language.
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