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Yeah, George is still at it.
Apparently because a teacher (who is clearly teaching the dregs of society) says that kids nowadays are [insert a number of derogatory adjectives here], that's the absolute truth because Hub.mn and MicroWiki are prime examples - despite that he's never had any actual contact with us and still can't seem to realise he's even worse at being a decent person than we are.
My replies contain a few sly references. For example, whenever he's argued here, he's turned it personal; insulting us rather than maintaining a valid argument - nothing that we do when discussing major things between us, in all fairness. I've also told him to look for examples to prove the point wrong, so if he doesn't make the effort, that's just lazy
So yeah, I guess my intentions of joining the LoM forum are now clear; to get him back at his own game, but actually doing it without having to resort to personal (often xenophobic) attacks or patronisation
Apparently because a teacher (who is clearly teaching the dregs of society) says that kids nowadays are [insert a number of derogatory adjectives here], that's the absolute truth because Hub.mn and MicroWiki are prime examples - despite that he's never had any actual contact with us and still can't seem to realise he's even worse at being a decent person than we are.
My replies contain a few sly references. For example, whenever he's argued here, he's turned it personal; insulting us rather than maintaining a valid argument - nothing that we do when discussing major things between us, in all fairness. I've also told him to look for examples to prove the point wrong, so if he doesn't make the effort, that's just lazy
So yeah, I guess my intentions of joining the LoM forum are now clear; to get him back at his own game, but actually doing it without having to resort to personal (often xenophobic) attacks or patronisation
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George is one of the most interesting case studies this hobby has ever seen. He's apparently really successful at convincing semi-important people at legitimizing his micronation, but he's also a complete tool. I don't understand why his friends don't object to his trolling, or at least tell him to knock it off.
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Obviously, he isn't trolling them...I don't understand why his friends don't object to his trolling, or at least tell him to knock it off.
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Or maybe he is them?pawelabrams wrote:Obviously, he isn't trolling them...I don't understand why his friends don't object to his trolling, or at least tell him to knock it off.
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Well, imagine if you were in a professional friendship with someone, and then you found out that they went down the local middle school and jeered the teams there. Wouldn't you say something? Or generally not feel comfortable with associating with that sort of behavior?
Though it is possible they simply don't know, which gives us a great opportunity to attempt to ruin his life if he pisses us off too much.
Though it is possible they simply don't know, which gives us a great opportunity to attempt to ruin his life if he pisses us off too much.
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I could always sign up to his forum, get him to display his mental tenancies...
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I think, due to the nature of Mr. Cruickshank that this will backfire miserably. Because you're a prominent figure in this community, an admin of the hub and AdminGen of the MCS, playing this game is not at all recommended. We have other sectors visiting here now and the last thing we need to do is prove George right by coming off as vindictive little dweebs. So, lets take the moral high-ground and simply ignore George. And considering it is on his own, somewhat isolated forum, I feel that our reputation would not be tarnished by his inane and asinine ramblings. I dare say our reputation would go up by ignoring the old sod rather than just play what is very much his game.So yeah, I guess my intentions of joining the LoM forum are now clear; to get him back at his own game, but actually doing it without having to resort to personal (often xenophobic) attacks or patronisation
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I took care of it. Let's see if we can try to avoid rash actions that would totally prove the point we're trying to argue against in the most embarrassing possible way.
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Well, considering his first post in that thread is a straight-forward unnecessary insult to the Hub.mn and MicroWiki communities after no communication with us for a while now, I have no worries about that. I shall never lower myself to the level of launching attacks over absolutely nothing but, as you can see, all I'm doing is sticking-up for the younger micronationalists in a mature and well-written (albeit sly) mannerEinhorn wrote:I think, due to the nature of Mr. Cruickshank that this will backfire miserably.
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So it may seem on paper/in your head. When someone is using Insane Troll Logic, your only options are to either ignore them or lower yourself to their level. As we've seen, no matter how sensible the argument, no matter how well written or conveyed, ITL prevails, unless you stoop to their level. Really, Adam, it won't work, go re-read the George thread if you think I am wrong. You can try to argue with him but you'll just fail. Not for lack of intelligence on your part, but simply because there is no sensible or moral-high-ground-gaining/retaining way to argue with someone who is probably one of the most unstable (at least online he is) people in micronations today. You might have more luck convincing your Parliament that the sky is purple, and that because of some gene from a hundred million years ago, you're the only one who can see that the sky is purple. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it were some hairbrained scheme by himself to lure you and other Hub members there to argue with him. Answering the call of his TROLOLOL Trumpet gives him the win every time. If you don't feed, acknowledge or give credence to a troll, they lose.Craitman wrote:Well, considering his first post in that thread is a straight-forward unnecessary insult to the Hub.mn and MicroWiki communities after no communication with us for a while now, I have no worries about that. I shall never lower myself to the level of launching attacks over absolutely nothing but, as you can see, all I'm doing is sticking-up for the younger micronationalists in a mature and well-written (albeit sly) mannerEinhorn wrote:I think, due to the nature of Mr. Cruickshank that this will backfire miserably.
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That's the main bit you've misinterpreted. I'm not going to argue with him whatsoever - just give my opinions and facts on any matters which he aims insultingly at us. There's no aim of bringing justice, besmirching his name or keeping any moral highground with what I post on that forum. I'm there just to voice the thoughts of micronationalists from another sector without having to revert to a slagging match. If there's any implications here as a result of what happens over there, then I shall eat my words, but I don't ever intend to be that hungryEinhorn wrote:You can try to argue with him but you'll just fail.
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Not often, but I have to say, nice response, Scott. Bury him! Bury him with the TRUTH!
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I still say it is largely a scheme on his part. But hey, more power to you if you think you can hang. I am sure you can, I just know that even a little bit of George's bullshit can make anyone go ape shit. I guess it is a matter of tolerance. I had just figured that we all agreed that we should just let him fade out of the topics of our discussions and stay well clear . You're going to have a rough time, so gird your loins!Craitman wrote:That's the main bit you've misinterpreted. I'm not going to argue with him whatsoever - just give my opinions and facts on any matters which he aims insultingly at us. There's no aim of bringing justice, besmirching his name or keeping any moral highground with what I post on that forum. I'm there just to voice the thoughts of micronationalists from another sector without having to revert to a slagging match. If there's any implications here as a result of what happens over there, then I shall eat my words, but I don't ever intend to be that hungryEinhorn wrote:You can try to argue with him but you'll just fail.
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Well, it took me nine pages' worth of crap to just ban his username before, so I think I'm getting thereEinhorn wrote:I guess it is a matter of tolerance.