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The Ocian people were deeply revolted and enraged by the comments of Alexandria’s first consul who shamelessly besmirched the character of Ocia’s most respected and beloved Kolya Radchenko during our period of mourning.

For the people of the micronational world and of Micras who wish to know why the so-called ‘empire’ of Alexandria would carry out such a disgraceful outburst we will explain. Throughout 2008 Alexandria’s Enrique Portela who was at the time “Dauphin” spearheaded an NIA conspiracy, (with the consent of Alexandria’s emperor) to take over the political mechanisms of the Ocian Federation and hack into the Ocian forums and destroy them under the cover of the pseudonym Edward Simms. His half successful plan began with him rigging Ocia’s 2008 parliamentary elections (as a candidate of the now defunct libertarian party) to facilitate the plot. Before Alexandria’s Dauphin could hack into and delete Ocia’s forums to hide his trail (and blame another member of the micronational community for the ordeal) his true identity was discovered thanks to the help of other concerned members of the micronational community and he was expelled. This along with other shameful activities carried out by Alexandria’s NIA were so disgraceful and utterly humiliating that the government of Alexandria was forced to disband the group.

Over the years since then, various Alexandrians such as Mr. Zambelis have attempted to carry out retribution for this public humiliation with no success. This has included another equally shameful plan to De-legitimize the rightful Ocian government and ‘hand over’ land to Ashkenatza along with another plot to sabotage proposals that Ocia had with other Micronations regarding the possibility of merging or forming a new Federation. The time Mr. Zambelis spent in the Ocia he seemingly hated so much organizing the East Ocian puppet regime goes without mention.

So it is quite simple to see why Alexandria’s first counsel would make such distasteful remarks while we are genuinely memorializing Kolya, and it is also evident why the First Consul and his little corporal are so preoccupied with toiling with anything that has to do with Ocia.

The Ocian Federation is warning Alexandria to use the utmost discretion when addressing the memory of Kolya. Should they even commit one more hostile move they will be answered with a one hundredfold response.

Guido Zambelis wrote:Tell you what Kovac, I'll respond to your latest outburst when you deny every single one of the claims I made about Kolya.

You and the Ashkenatzi can't possibly expect that by bringing in real world religions and politically contentious issues you are going avoid responses triggered by feelings people have on these issues.

What politically contentious issue? Moreover, isn't Ocia catholic or orthodox christian? I somehow think that the expulsion of an ethnic group en masse from Ocia and calling the Amokolian war the 'great patriotic war' is making more references to 'politically contentious issues' than anything we or the Alexandrians have done...

subjugating tellian "Catholics" to a Jewish dominated population

One of our recent Nohsim - Herr Bartolomeo Henzelli - is Tellian IC and a catholic. Try again.

giving it the appearance of a Zionist nation akin to the apartheid regime in South Africa or the ethnocracy in Israel

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please furnish me with some or stop making a fool of yourself.

You can not deny Ashkenatza's yearning to be a zionist nation when in a declaration of war you posted phrases from the Talmud on Ocia's forums

By that logic, any nation that utilises phrases from their own mythological and cultural background, including, naturally, their religion constitutes religious extremism and/or some kind of fascistic ideology. Think about what you are saying.

Other moves such as your ignorant scheme to use irredentism as an excuse for colonies on Keltia

We haven't explictly come out with irredentist statements about any Keltian 'colony' - you really are out of the loop, aren't you?

are clear parallels to the beliefs of the fascist evils of the past

Justify.

Furthermore, a citizen of yours whose name I will withhold fantasized about having political party marching banners very similar to the Nazi banners (or as he put it, "banners that match Ashkenatza's 'ideology' more")

a.) I'm pretty damn sure I never said that.
b.) ...So that now means that any micronation who has explored parodying some of the nastier regimes in history (in Green Thunder's case, it wasn't the nazis - it was the integralists of Brazil) makes the micronationalist in question a sincere adherent of the ideology they are parodying? May I remind you that many elements of Ocia have allusions to Stalinist Russia, and oh yes - your avatar is of dimitri medvedev and Kolyas' is that of Vladimir Putin. A contemporary 'regime' with a questionable human rights record.
And finally, I should like to quote something you said on Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:11 pm - "Is it now insane for a micronation to have a theme and some quirky hilarious propaganda rants?"

"and a city in the center of Benacia with a strikingly similar name to "Welthauptstadt Germania."

Which city would that be? If you are referring to Benaciastadt, we didn't actually name that city - it was there in the days of the CIS. We just kept the name.

Kolya even asserted that the real reason for provoking aggression with Amokolia and Ocia was because Ashkenatza needed more lebensraum.

Well then he was as deluded as you.

Infact many things about the regime you are apart of, from your symbols to their focus on ethnic groups and race

What things? Name one that stands up to even the mildest scrutiny.

are far to similar to fascist ideas to be coincidental

ditto.

Maximos wrote:What's the Slovene for 'The Troll, you're feeding him?' again?

oh let me help you, it's rasistični jezikavi žid. A very predictable move that you would try and bring up my ethnicity.

Some more icing on the cake is when our beloved Moshe here discusses the “Ocia Question” with former Defence minister pachad. I do not think I need to allude to how utterly disgraceful it is to make reference to Hitler’s use of the term “the jewish question,” and I would have hoped that a nation priding it self with this same religion and culture would know better then to use this language.

You can get a small glimpse of their fantasies too, such as "riding in the gunner's seat" of a helicopter over a town and shooting people (Not a particularly positive sign of good mental health).

There are dozens and dozens of other posts that I could display that span over a few years but I don’t feel like it’s worth any more of my time.

(nor will a number of other people in this community)

You are in many ways the epitome of what is wrong with this hobby

...which enjoys the respect of the micronational ‘old guard’, can operate beyond the line of ethics and truly act in a despicable manner.

For old time’s sake I would like to say that if it weren't for our grit and superior strategic abilities

Nick wrote:Too much more of this and it goes to the Cod's Leg.

Matt Kovac wrote:That's usually what the truth does around here.

Maximos wrote:I really don't want to end up being as fixated on Ocia as Matt and his print screen button appear to be on us.

Wasn't making a slur on your ethnicity, Matt, just asking you what a phrase was in your language.
Think I'd rather be called jud in Slovene than žid- at least, in Russian and Ukrainian the word жид is in many cases derogatory, compared to еврей. Or- here's a protip- you could just have not bought it up at all, seeing as by your own admission referring to ethnicity is a 'predictable move' by 'fascists' (also, nice to know you've sorted out spelling the latter word finally. Thumbs up!).

Please, be a keyboard warrior as much as you want, but I don't have the time. Nobody has the time for this, and neither should you.
I'm actually surprised that you would have turned a memorial thread- to which we all offer our condolences- into a flame war quite so quickly. Doesn't show much respect, I think- hence why I tried to get Aster to realise that you are, and always have been, the little Troll who could. I'd have hoped he wouldn't have risen to you but I'm actually beginning to suspect you wanted him to.

Now why doesn't our Veliki Maršal run along to do whatever it is people of his magnitude have to do in their daily routine?

We finished here?

Think we're finished here.