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Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:12 pm
by Lord_Montague
So after hurling all kinds of abuse at Alexandria regarding (unproven) allegations it spied on Ocia, commenting how deplorable it is and asking the MTO to pass a resolution against HUMINT he then reveals the large extent to which he has spied on Ashkenatza?

I wonder why I bother.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:44 pm
by Aster
My ethnicity had nothing to do with the issue yet you brought it up to try and seem condescending. Here's a protip, not all of the slavic languages are the same professor. The word žid in the Slovenian language has no negative connotations, it is merely a short form of a word such as cop is for police.
That actually made me laugh.

Moshe is studying Russian. Try again.
I also found it fairly amusing that after all of the clumsy clandestine schemes that you put such great effort to cook up you have now called me the keyboard warrior. I think I've established that you all are incapable of conducting yourselves in an honorable manner, and that while you claim to operate with lofty moral standards you all do quite the opposite. So yes I think you're done here.
Two words - Amokolian War.

You set a FINE example in that...

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:17 am
by Matt Kovac
Lord_Montague wrote:So after hurling all kinds of abuse at Alexandria regarding (unproven) allegations it spied on Ocia, commenting how deplorable it is and asking the MTO to pass a resolution against HUMINT he then reveals the large extent to which he has spied on Ashkenatza?

I wonder why I bother.
The abuse came from Alexandria's deplorable statements following Kolya's untimely demise- in which you offered your phony condolences just days before you commented implying that you hoped the bad news which had yet to be released was about Kolya. As a result I referenced their clearly proven (unless enriqo has a twin brother that hacked into his computer) shameful practices committed by Alexandria.

On the topic of HUMINT, you were a piece of Ashkenatzi humit which we clearly monitored and knew about. I wish to remind you that there are people in your own micronation that are just as disgusted with Ashkenatza's collective demeanor and conduct as I am. Let this be a personal lesson that before you act pretentious and think that you are 10 moves ahead of someone; remember that it could be you who is being 'co-opted.'

I'd ask Ashkenatza to simply stick to Guido's policy suggestion of ignoring Ocia because frankly I am no longer interested in even acknowledging a group of people who conduct themselves in such a way. As max realizes its over and you have been uncovered. Its best that you go your own way.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:31 am
by Aster
I'd ask Ashkenatza to simply stick to Guido's policy suggestion of ignoring Ocia because frankly I am no longer interested in even acknowledging a group of people who conduct themselves in such a way. As max realizes its over and you have been uncovered. Its best that you go your own way.
Well then your nation is liable to die, considering that it's sole purpose seems to be to post 'great patriotic war' propaganda at the moment...

...And again you don't have a shread of evidence to back up your statements about our conduct and alleged 'hacking' operations - asserting something doesn't make it true. Adding Hitler and Fascist references makes it laughable.

...And as for your 'allies', well, they seem to be remarkably absent in all the discussions we have with you...

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:10 am
by Nick
Ja, Craitman can just deal with my impatience this one time - consider this topic officially "cod legged".

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:18 am
by Craitman
Nah, nothing wrong with moving it now. Y'did warn 'em an' all :wink:

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:36 pm
by Lord_Montague
Matt Kovac wrote: The abuse came from Alexandria's deplorable statements following Kolya's untimely demise- in which you offered your phony condolences just days before you commented implying that you hoped the bad news which had yet to be released was about Kolya. As a result I referenced their clearly proven (unless enriqo has a twin brother that hacked into his computer) shameful practices committed by Alexandria.

On the topic of HUMINT, you were a piece of Ashkenatzi humit which we clearly monitored and knew about. I wish to remind you that there are people in your own micronation that are just as disgusted with Ashkenatza's collective demeanor and conduct as I am. Let this be a personal lesson that before you act pretentious and think that you are 10 moves ahead of someone; remember that it could be you who is being 'co-opted.'

I'd ask Ashkenatza to simply stick to Guido's policy suggestion of ignoring Ocia because frankly I am no longer interested in even acknowledging a group of people who conduct themselves in such a way. As max realizes its over and you have been uncovered. Its best that you go your own way.
I offered condolences before he was dead (or his death announced)? That's a new one.

So far as I know Enrique was working for Babkha so you should be asking SAVAK all those questions. Who in my micronation (whichever one that is these days) is disgusted with Ashkenatza's collective demeanour as much as you are? And I never think I'm 10 moves ahead of anyone....usually only about 3. With Babkhans though I readily admit I'm not usually very ahead of them if ahead of them at all.

At the risk of boasting you don't need to tell me about HUMINT. I probably was one of the more successful spies until I deliberately blew my own cover (not really success I admit. The successful ones are the ones you don't know about) so I'm more than familiar with how the routine operates. Be grateful for all that help I gave you in the Great Patriotic War, Matt.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:36 pm
by Matt Kovac
Lord_Montague wrote:Fingers crossed it has something to do with Kolya.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:16 pm
by Aster
You haven't actually responded to any of my points Matt. If you really want to have a sincere conversation as to why Ashkenatza is or is not 'facsist', then it depresses me to say that I will actually indulge you for a short time if only for the comedy value.

Come on then? Respond to my refutations!

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:53 pm
by Matt Kovac
There's no comedy value in your nation's despicable conduct and subliminal use of fascist and Nazi political phrases and ideas (unless you are referring to the fact that you all thought you would get away with it). Apart from that there's nothing more to say; I have no interest in trying to convince a hellbent operator of the Asheknatzi propaganda machine about the facts because its entirely useless. For me its mission complete because most now know how sly, calculating and unethical the Ashkenatzi are and how you are willing to act in any way to get your way. You're free to to particularly poke holes in the statements and connections I've made but no one cares aster because everyone knows its true. Consider the "Ocian Question" answered.

later gator

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:01 pm
by Nick
If it pleases the public, shall I lock this topic?

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:07 pm
by Matt Kovac
Nick wrote:If it pleases the public, shall I lock this topic?

This is exactly what I am talking about. Threads in past containing a great deal of personal attacks against myself as well as others are allowed to continue but its a different story when I clearly convey the facts about shameful practices that have been going on over the years without personally attacking anyone. There is nothing wrong with this thread except for the fact that its extremely embarrassing and revealing for Ashkenatza which is why I'm sure they have asked you to shut it down.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:09 pm
by Nick
Are you implying staff member corruption? Matt, I think you're taking this a tad too far. I asked if this topic should be closed (primarily asking you, as the topic creator you do have the right to have it closed at any time) because this is just utter lunacy all around by both parties involved and it really needs to cease and desist. If you don't want it closed it is absolutely no problem at all, you're free to keep this train of silliness chugging right along - there was absolutely no need to make accusations against staff.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:34 pm
by Matt Kovac
Considering the fact that you changed your response I'm going to say that your idea of me accusing the staff of anything wasn't the first thing that came to mind. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Craitman, Dr- Spangle and all of the admin team they do a great job and we all owe a lot to them. I do notice that in general in the community there is a set of double standards and that is all that I'm pointing out.

Re: Respected Prime Minister, Marshal Radchenko's Demise

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:39 pm
by Nick
I did, because I didn't notice the whole "you were asked by THEM" remark when I first read it. If you don't want it locked, just say so. I cannot lock it unless you or Craitman instruct otherwise, so any requests by anyone else would be futile. I'd be required to provide a reason and if it proved to be false - that is a lie I don't fancy being caught in. I won't ask for an apology or anything but generally speaking that was kind of low.

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