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I brainstormed this last night, no that doesn't mean i had a form of epileptic fit, I mean mindmapped... not an EEG monitor!
You know what I mean, possibly...
anyways...
I thought about this and there are basically 4 ways of doing it...
1)I rate them all personally (to hell with this idea, I hate it and I think most of you lot would too, large possibly of bias even though I'm perfect, would take longer than activity check)
2)A set council rates them all (very slow, all council have to be online around the 15th of each month, might be a little bias)
3)Public polls (Would tend to measure popularity rather than actual culture, members would rate their own country as 10, large population countries like lovely could practically brute force it to show 10/10)
4)People upload items of culture and a PHP system counts it (quick but doesn't measure quality, just quantity, different amount of "points" for different things, images 1/2, laws 1/2, backstories 2, complete histories 5 etc)
All have faults, all have advantages....
You know what I mean, possibly...
anyways...
I thought about this and there are basically 4 ways of doing it...
1)I rate them all personally (to hell with this idea, I hate it and I think most of you lot would too, large possibly of bias even though I'm perfect, would take longer than activity check)
2)A set council rates them all (very slow, all council have to be online around the 15th of each month, might be a little bias)
3)Public polls (Would tend to measure popularity rather than actual culture, members would rate their own country as 10, large population countries like lovely could practically brute force it to show 10/10)
4)People upload items of culture and a PHP system counts it (quick but doesn't measure quality, just quantity, different amount of "points" for different things, images 1/2, laws 1/2, backstories 2, complete histories 5 etc)
All have faults, all have advantages....
Out of those I favour 2.
1 would also be fine but I really don't think it would be fair on you.
I would suggest we look at forming a council, of maybe 4 or 5 people. Now I'd recomend that we look for the most fair and level headed micronationalists. Once the council is formed, nations may then begin submitting culture to the committee. A set of guidelines should state roughly what cultural pieces are awarded what, then the committee should award a set number of points. I'd suggest all cultural points that are awarded are shown publically, and an appeal option is available to the public. Say there is a disagreement to a cultural piece, be this about the number of points, or maybe the council having decided not to award points at all, an appeal may be lodged by the nation concerned. They must state what they feel is reasonable, then should 10 or more representatives agree (each nation must name one representative) then the outcome is changed. This ensures there is a true democratic voice in this process.
The points of each cultural piece are then totted up to form the overal cultural rating.
1 would also be fine but I really don't think it would be fair on you.
I would suggest we look at forming a council, of maybe 4 or 5 people. Now I'd recomend that we look for the most fair and level headed micronationalists. Once the council is formed, nations may then begin submitting culture to the committee. A set of guidelines should state roughly what cultural pieces are awarded what, then the committee should award a set number of points. I'd suggest all cultural points that are awarded are shown publically, and an appeal option is available to the public. Say there is a disagreement to a cultural piece, be this about the number of points, or maybe the council having decided not to award points at all, an appeal may be lodged by the nation concerned. They must state what they feel is reasonable, then should 10 or more representatives agree (each nation must name one representative) then the outcome is changed. This ensures there is a true democratic voice in this process.
The points of each cultural piece are then totted up to form the overal cultural rating.
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Think how long that would take, then multiply that by 142 for all the nations on the list
I'ld suggest it being somewhere around the 15th of each month so that it is spaced well from the activity check...
I think that the upload of cultural items would be handy too, even if just a side item it would be very handy for people to research nations...
PS James, MSN please
I'ld suggest it being somewhere around the 15th of each month so that it is spaced well from the activity check...
I think that the upload of cultural items would be handy too, even if just a side item it would be very handy for people to research nations...
PS James, MSN please
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James, it's going to be a ton of work. Take a nation like Shireroth. Have you even glanced at their wiki? They have a huge history there and that's before there nation officially started ... They have laws going back forever, in theory elements of culture for every subdivision ... even if you limited yourself to the wiki, which by no means contains everything, it would be many hours of reading ... and that's just for one nation.
I mean, you can do it, but I don't think it's easy to count ALL of a nation's culture.
I mean, you can do it, but I don't think it's easy to count ALL of a nation's culture.
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
Andreas the Wise wrote:James, it's going to be a ton of work. Take a nation like Shireroth. Have you even glanced at their wiki? They have a huge history there and that's before there nation officially started ... They have laws going back forever, in theory elements of culture for every subdivision ... even if you limited yourself to the wiki, which by no means contains everything, it would be many hours of reading ... and that's just for one nation.
I mean, you can do it, but I don't think it's easy to count ALL of a nation's culture.
I realise it'd be a massive project, but bear in mind we would be relying on nations to submit the culture to us, rather than us going looking for it. Obviously with something as large as a wiki, we'd have to form a points system depending upon how large the wiki is, carrying out random checks to ensure the pages are relatively detailed, maybe use the 'random page' feature for 10 pages to gain a word-length average, and work it out using that.
I admit that should we look into this further, it will definately need some thinking through, and obviously there may well be several creases that need ironing out.
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Well, if you did do it, you'd make the council's job easier ...
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
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Once it had all the work done ...
And James - another question - do you judge by quantity, quality or both? Say if we have a whole bunch of history stuff - do we just upload the best one for you to judge, and the fact we have several others of similiar standard is just a minor consideration, or would you judge each one?
And James - another question - do you judge by quantity, quality or both? Say if we have a whole bunch of history stuff - do we just upload the best one for you to judge, and the fact we have several others of similiar standard is just a minor consideration, or would you judge each one?
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
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February 2008 complete
http://forums.new-empire.com/index.php?showtopic=59
I had to write that twice because phun crashed my PC...
February 2008 complete
http://forums.new-empire.com/index.php?showtopic=59
I had to write that twice because phun crashed my PC...
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For your info, the Gralan forum hasn't had many old posts recovered, so I'm amazed our stats are that large .... but it is certainly active. Nova's down a lot, school term loll and all that ...
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
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In that topic you said: 'Craitland seems to have rocketed up the activity ladder with 1159 posts during February (compared to 210 during January) which has meant they have 39.966PPD, this seems to be largely due to help from Bobbie, the king of Bobalania.'dr-spangle wrote: http://forums.new-empire.com/index.php?showtopic=59
If someone was active in Cräiteland, I was!
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Yeah, I'd have to put it to Jonas ...
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander