OFFICIAL BATTLE THREAD
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OOC: Batavia should of known, had they kept track, that the majority of the war was over and yet on the same day it ended they posted showing no sign of leaving the invaded territory. What are we supposed to do? Invite them around for supper and suggest over steaming cups of tea and assorted cream cakes that maybe if they get a second they might like to be jolly nice chaps and withdraw their invading army from our land? We were responding to a military occupation with a military response, hardly shocking.
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Well at least you've asked now. It doesn't matter who starts the negotiations, Guido, but it is standard to have a peace treaty before you leave. To try for peace before firing is merely common courtesy.
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
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Sorry, just thought Bosworth was going for the "We're better than you," approach.
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
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Commander Octavius, Commander Indianensis, Ensign Valeria, and Nelson Werner passed through the main doors of the cathedral and began their way down the steps. To their left, the Sun was already crouching low, its descent near complete. On the steps were posted a number of Gasconian Militiamen. Even though there was a language barrier, the four of them spoke quietly.
Christopher began listing things off of the top of his head. "Alright. We're going to need to get ahold of the Group right away. Ready the Home Guard for landing at the port area. Bring Bellerophon into the bay, post the destroyers near the bay's edge to begin patro--"
"Let's not get ahead of ourselves," Braden interrupted. "This needs to go through the proper channels. Firstly, we must gain Assembly approval, which means that we need to get typing on an official report, listing all of the merits and the consequences of taking such an action, so that a proper and full debate may take place. If it's designated an Emergency, it would only take a few days tops."
Christopher sighed. "Braden, you know the Assembly as well as I. They'd take weeks ruminating on this. Can you even imagine how much time it would take just to get them to declare the situation a matter of emergency?"
Valeria listened to the two of them intently. The inner workings of the Assembly were enthralling to her. Her sister would commonly tell her of all of the little interesting bits and witty quips made there, the advantage to having access to the transcripts being that she would never need to resort of paraphrasing, and never accidently ruin it before it all played out in sequence, something she had a tendency to do when she told her sister about things the Commander tended to do.
Werner, however, was quite familiar with everything that went on in the Assembly, having served as Braden's personal secretary during his Speakership, and was in fact a little bored and disgusted by the ceaseless debates and intrigues that so thrilled Ensign Valeria.
"But we cannot put the cart before the horse." Braden said, trying to explain the merits of using the proper channels. "I'm sure, if the report were particularly convincing, and typed up as soon as possible, we could get this through in a matter of days."
"The Shirerithians are LEAVING in a matter of days."
"Which is precisely why we must not waste time. A proper, full report should be finished by morning if we take turns." Christopher felt like he was trying to convince a cloud to not follow the wind current. He rolled his eyes to the side in frustration, and saw a couple of Babkhan soldiers on patrol.
"What about all of these Babkhans? If they're as treacherous as Tenre Spinrion said, then I don't think they will sit back and allow this referendum to go on pecefully." He pointed at the Babkhans with a nod of his head so that Braden too might note their appearance. "They seem eager to begin the rape and pillaging at the drop of a hat."
Braden could not deny this danger, and made a perculiar sideways nod in Christopher's direction. Braden was uncomfortable about the prospect, however. Nelson could see this, and remembered a mostly forgotten clause from the Commonwealth Forces Establishment Act.
"Might I recommend the following: we alert the Speaker of the Assembly of the situation and ask him for permission for emergency military action. The Speaker is permitted military action of up to two weeks without Assembly approval, in cases of utmost emergency. Two weeks should be enough time even for the Assembly to sort the matter out, and preparations may begin once we hang up the phone with the Speaker."
Everyone stopped and looked at Nelson for a moment. The silence was awkward, and Nelson began to fidget with his collar.
"Excellent idea."
"This is why he's my personal assistant," said Braden. "The man is a visionary."
"How are you gentlemen!" crackled over the phone. The Hyperboreans were nice enough to provide them with a secure connection directly to the Speaker's Office in Nafticon, on the other side of the planet. Of course, having to run the last leg of the connection through the Isle St Jean's technologically backward infrastructure left the sound quality at slightly worse than a wet walkie-talkie.
"We're fine, Mr. Speaker," replied Chris. "The Assembly will be pleased to hear that we haven't had a single casualty."
"Aha!" the crackled voice responded. "Such is the measure of the prowess of our fine Antican warriors!"
"Actually, we haven't begun fighting yet."
"Ah," he said. "Well, I am nevertheless overjoyed to hear from you. Yet, I can't help but think that this probably isn't a social call."
"No, Mr. Speaker, it isn't. As you are aware, under the terms of the Khan-Bellamy Accord, the Shirerithians must withdraw from Gascony--including Isle St. Jean-- five days hence.
"The matter gets a little complicated after that, however. The Hyperboreans have made huge improvements to the island's infrastructure since then. The standard of living has improved by leaps and bounds, and the people enjoy more security, prosperity and freedom than they have ever known," Christopher read from a piece of paper in his hand, doing his best to make it seem as though this was coming off the top of his head. "The Hyperborean administration fears that all this will be undone under Bosworthian rule, but they can do nothing."
No response, so Christopher continued. "Before the Shirerithians are required to withdraw, a referendum will be held in which the people of Isle St Jean will decide to become an independent state. At the same time, the new government will formally ask for Antican protection.
"This is because Bosworth will undoubtedly attempt to retake the island and squash the 'rebellion'. If they fail to, other nations may make the attempt as well, because, well... the island has strategic value to northwestern Benecia."
"Why did you feel the need to call and ask me about this?" asked Aryeztur.
"Well, we are requesting that you make permission for emergency military action, simultaneously submitting a resolution to the Assembly to allow for Antican defense of Isle St Jean past the two week deadline."
"I should've known Braden would insist on something like that, rather than doing what was prudent. Very well, I will ask them."
"Another thing, Mr. Speaker," Christopher said. "If possible, a clause should be added to the authorization, making it possible for Isle St. Jean to become a full territory, like new Brannum, if they so desire."
"Consider it authorized. Go forth, liberate the People of Gascony! Show them the glory of Antica!"
"Yes sir." Christopher said with mock enthusiasm.
"For Great Justice!" There was a click slightly louder than the background noise. For a moment, the two Commanders sat there in silence.
"Do you think he hung up?" Braden asked.
"I think so." Christopher responded. "I'm not entirely sure he understood precisely the scope of our goals here. We should probably send him the report anyway, detailing that it's just Isle St Jean and not the entirety of Gascony."
Braden nodded.
"Well, Commander, looks like we have our authorization. Begin landing the Home Guard."
The gangway of the "Wilhelmina Victoria", a transport ship with the Bellerophon Carrier Group, slowly began to descend, its pistons squealing and steaming profusely.
A slight "crunch" was heard as the metal of the gangway tapped the concrete of the large military pier, one of several where the transport ships carrying the Home Guard were docking.
All was silent for a moment and then, with a firm "Forwaaaard march!" the first platoon began to file out of the vessel, onto the dock, and then down and onto a larger platform, a column still vague and dark under the dim, grey light of the dawn. And then, brighter, as the rays of the sun, like spears, shone out over the still-sleeping city. To the soldiers, the sun might've been newborn; it might be rising over the earth for the very first time.
They were followed by many others, from the different ships at the different docks, the previous platoons marching forward and moving about on the platform to make room, until the entire Home Guard was assembled, neatly sorted into tidy groups. When this was done, the whole, orderly mass marched out of the harbor, down one of the main streets of Sanyyinkoth, to the military base from which they would later be deployed throughout the city.
SUMMARY: The Home Guard lands on Isle St Jean. The Bellerophon Carrier Group takes position in the bay on patrol, its situation at Condition 2.
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OOC @ Monty
OOC @ Jeremy:
Yeah, the Isle St. Jean conflict has taken on a very non-Bosworthian character. That's because, as I mentioned before, there are no Bosworthers participating, which is not what anyone originally wanted.
In retrospect, with Bosworthers not participating, it would have of course been better do hold it in some way that didn't involve Bosworth or their territory at all, but we didn't do that because Bosworth's declaration of war on us led us to believe Bosworth would be participating. Now that they're not, we're stuck with it.
But Guido's right. We have very different views of recwar and I'm probably not going to convince you. So here is my suggestion.
I start a new thread for continuing the story the way I want to do it. I'd like to do it on this forum, to make it easy for Anticans and King Josephus to participate, but if just knowing it existed on MCS would bother you or Monty, I can do it in Shireroth.
No one in Bosworth or Britannia even has to so much as read the thread if they don't want to. You can go develop culture or do whatever.
Those of us participating in the thread eventually work things out so that in the end things return either to their pre-war state, or are different in a minor way that isn't reflected on the MCS Map and that Bosworth doesn't have to acknowledge if they don't want to. This is a big hobby and can take a couple of continuity disagreements.
In return, you let us do our stuff with minimal interference, and if you're interested, you and other Bosworth people can create characters and participate. I'll create a "The Story Thus Far" style summary at the beginning of the new thread.
Does that sound reasonable?
Isn't that what a recwar is? People inventing cultural stuff? I feel like, in the middle of a recwar that we've put some work into, one side is saying "Actually, never mind. Go away." They're within their legal rights to do so, but it seems like a sort of betrayal of the trust that's given when starting a conflict. Although I admit I'd be on much firmer ground here if there'd been a charter.Scott, either you're deliberately trying to wind the opposition up or you're being a bit silly. You have no right to reasonably expect that just because you wrote of a culture in a certain place that it should exist.
OOC @ Jeremy:
Yeah, the Isle St. Jean conflict has taken on a very non-Bosworthian character. That's because, as I mentioned before, there are no Bosworthers participating, which is not what anyone originally wanted.
In retrospect, with Bosworthers not participating, it would have of course been better do hold it in some way that didn't involve Bosworth or their territory at all, but we didn't do that because Bosworth's declaration of war on us led us to believe Bosworth would be participating. Now that they're not, we're stuck with it.
But Guido's right. We have very different views of recwar and I'm probably not going to convince you. So here is my suggestion.
I start a new thread for continuing the story the way I want to do it. I'd like to do it on this forum, to make it easy for Anticans and King Josephus to participate, but if just knowing it existed on MCS would bother you or Monty, I can do it in Shireroth.
No one in Bosworth or Britannia even has to so much as read the thread if they don't want to. You can go develop culture or do whatever.
Those of us participating in the thread eventually work things out so that in the end things return either to their pre-war state, or are different in a minor way that isn't reflected on the MCS Map and that Bosworth doesn't have to acknowledge if they don't want to. This is a big hobby and can take a couple of continuity disagreements.
In return, you let us do our stuff with minimal interference, and if you're interested, you and other Bosworth people can create characters and participate. I'll create a "The Story Thus Far" style summary at the beginning of the new thread.
Does that sound reasonable?
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Illustrious Founder of the MCS, and sometime Special Cartographer
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OOC: Just for the record, Bosworth didn't declare war on Shireroth nor has there ever been a declaration of war .
You can carry on some sort of backstory thread if you like, although preferably not in this board as i want it gone ASAP, on condition that things are wrapped up by July 1st as stated in the treaty. I don't think i have time to take part myself however.
You can carry on some sort of backstory thread if you like, although preferably not in this board as i want it gone ASAP, on condition that things are wrapped up by July 1st as stated in the treaty. I don't think i have time to take part myself however.
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OOC: The Germans did the same in WO I, first invading Belgium and afterwards declaring war...KingJeremy wrote:OOC: Just for the record, Bosworth didn't declare war on Shireroth nor has there ever been a declaration of war .
I don't know this is something that you must be proud about
(Don't take this too serious, I wouldn't dare to say that Bosworth is Germany)
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