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Hello

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:02 pm
by iehova
By god, this place is still going strong..!

12 years, apparently, since I last logged on here. I didn't expect Micras to still exist. And yet here I am, having just spent the last couple of hours down the rabbit hole, reading back old RecWar threads and all the endless bureaucratic wrangles we used to have.

What a brilliant hobby this was (is), and a great community. Bonkers, obviously, but great. :)

A big hello to anyone around who is as long in the tooth as I am. And hello to those who aren't, too.

I didn't want to just swing by without offering anything, so here is a little bit of world-building for you.

Best wishes to one and all.

Chris

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Re: Hello

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by Craitman
While it ruined your brilliantly ironic count of 666 forum posts, it's fantastic to see you back around these parts! There are still a fair amount of the older guard around doing their thing, and we've had a few long hiatuses come to an end lately as well, so probably quite a few will remember you.

In the past few years we've had a bit of a subconscious shift away from the old way of doing things on separate forums to developing everything on a centralised MicrasWiki instead, so I'd definitely point you in that direction for recent news :)

Oh and one last thing, Riponian nostalgia still hits me from time to time :P

Re: Hello

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:08 pm
by iehova
Thanks Craitman - glad to see you are still around and evidently serving as benevolent dictator of this august institution.

I had a look at MicrasWiki yesterday - great to read back over some of the events from back in the day. Just a shame that so much of it is lost to the mists of time. Somewhere, buried away, I've got an old hard drive with a backup of the Riponia forums on it. There's so much intermicronational history on there.

A few personal highlights from the ~2005-2008 period - in no particular order:

> The Non-Aligned Movement - one of the great power blocs of its day which upended the geopolitical order (usually at the point of a bayonet). Antica, Natopia, Riponia, and later Matbaa and Alexandria - what a combination! The Declaration of Non-Alignment still reads brilliantly - Steven and Nathan deserve most of the credit for that, if I remember correctly.

> The Atkins Reduction, the GSO and Geiss - SO much drama. And yet it laid the foundations for an MCS which has survived and thrived to this day. And there's still plenty of green space on Micras.

> The Treaty of BBC - What an incredibly exciting time that was, to have our small hobby suddenly at the front-and-centre of a primetime BBC programme, and to be the first group of micronations to engage with it. Obviously we then spent the next few years decrying all those frivoulus interlopers (and meant we had to put up with the hulking grey blob of the CIS :wink:), but it rejuvenated the hobby and brought in some great, committed people.

> Taesong and Nova England - two micronations that will always hold a very special place for me. And on the other hand, Ocia and Woodstania - man, we used to love riling those guys up :twisted:. Speaking of which...

> The vast, all-encompassing RecWars (not to mention the warring RecWar systems). Has there been anything since to match them? The ferocity of Taylor Bay, the machinations of the War of Broken Pottery, the global carnage of Circum-Raynor, and of course the ultimate conflagration of the Lovely War, which expunged that tottering nation from Micras and left Riponia at the pinnacle of its power and territorial reach (albeit I think our heart was always really in Corum).

> So much spycraft 8)

> Some of the insane creativity of this sector - reading Scott Alexander in the Apollo Fireball, listening to Nick Leghorn on KZFO, basically everything Iain de Vembria did, the fact that we somehow ended up with a more well-regulated football league than most real countries (thanks Craitman). And so much more I can't begin to list.

> And of course Riponia itself. What a crazy, mad, buzzing, creative place that was. It took over my life (and those of most of my schoolmates) for four years, and I was so proud to count so many top micronationalists as fellow citizens, and so many great micronations as friends, allies, or rivals.

And yet so few of those great empires remain, beyond bits and bytes, hiding in the celestial aether of the internet, gently gathering dust...
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Re: Hello

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:25 pm
by Cosmic Fury
It's good to see you back! I'm definitely a recent newcomer myself, but I'm hearing a lot of good things about you.

If you're to return in earnest, I look forward to working with you!

Re: Hello

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:16 pm
by Continuator
> The vast, all-encompassing RecWars (not to mention the warring RecWar systems). Has there been anything since to match them? The ferocity of Taylor Bay, the machinations of the War of Broken Pottery, the global carnage of Circum-Raynor, and of course the ultimate conflagration of the Lovely War, which expunged that tottering nation from Micras and left Riponia at the pinnacle of its power and territorial reach (albeit I think our heart was always really in Corum).
While I dipped out on the last two of those - I do certainly recall the Circum-Raynor hilarity (where Babkha somehow got itself balls deep in a war on a map it had ostentatiously left not too long prior and where half the navies of the era got wrecked in fairly short order). Good, albeit extremely daft, times.

Re: Hello

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:28 pm
by Edgard
Holy shit! Good to see you, man! :) I don't know if you remember me, I'm Edgard from Alexandria, from back in the day!

Re: Hello

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:14 pm
by iehova
Edgard wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:28 pm
Holy shit! Good to see you, man! :) I don't know if you remember me, I'm Edgard from Alexandria, from back in the day!
Great to see you buddy - as if I could forget! Alexandria was a classy-ass micronation. Nowhere near enough chances in real life to strut around as a Marechal de la Grande Armée.
Continuator wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:16 pm
Where Babkha somehow got itself balls deep in a war on a map it had ostentatiously left not too long prior.
'Ostentatiously' is surely superfluous here, as we're talking about Babkha? :wink: That first map update after the Great Flounce though... Micras looked empty... it felt like the end-times.
Cosmic Fury wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:25 pm
It's good to see you back! I'm definitely a recent newcomer myself, but I'm hearing a lot of good things about you.

If you're to return in earnest, I look forward to working with you!
Thank you mate - gonna strain every sinew not to get sucked back in to this absolute time-sink of a hobby, but if Ardy's still involved after 20-odd years then I guess it's abandon hope all ye who enter here...

Anyway, I spent some time writing up the history of Riponia on the wiki yesterday, so micronationalists as-yet-unborn might have a chance of learning what was up with that great hulking green mass in the middle of Apollonia.

Re: Hello

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:00 pm
by Nathan
iehova wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:08 pm
> The Non-Aligned Movement - one of the great power blocs of its day which upended the geopolitical order (usually at the point of a bayonet). Antica, Natopia, Riponia, and later Matbaa and Alexandria - what a combination! The Declaration of Non-Alignment still reads brilliantly - Steven and Nathan deserve most of the credit for that, if I remember correctly.
Hey there! What a blast from the past! It's so good to see you again!

I just reread that NAM Declaration and can't help but feel like now Natopia has betrayed its non-aligned roots, now being in a huge power bloc with the remnants of Shireroth and Babkha :lol:

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:47 am
by Craitman
iehova wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:08 pm
Thanks Craitman - glad to see you are still around and evidently serving as benevolent dictator of this august institution.
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Somewhere, buried away, I've got an old hard drive with a backup of the Riponia forums on it. There's so much intermicronational history on there.
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> Taesong and Nova England - two micronations that will always hold a very special place for me.
I try my best; I did give the rest of them a chance to oust me after ten years at the reins but they seem to still tolerate me enough! I'd love to see into that old forum, I have some fond memories of it - I've always been a bit out of the loop with what happened with Riponia's demise, I kinda just remember the forum going and everyone disappearing almost overnight. Taesong is definitely long gone, though Hieu did used to pop his head in the door from time to time up until a few years ago, but Nova England is still going with Joe at the helm!
gonna strain every sinew not to get sucked back in to this absolute time-sink of a hobby, but if Ardy's still involved after 20-odd years then I guess it's abandon hope all ye who enter here...
Nobody ever truly leaves... But in seriousness, things are a lot easier to get going on Micras nowadays than they used to be. One-man nations aren't frowned upon anymore and are actually the majority of projects now, land can be reserved straight away instead of enduring a three-month wait, and barely anyone uses national forums so no need to artificially inflate activity counts with word association games! Not trying to force anything of you, of course, just something to think about if there are any worldbuilding ideas you've had of late :D

Re: Hello

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:36 am
by James E Wilary
Greetings!

I had my first run in 2010-2011, and returned this year myself. Glad to hear from even further back!

Re: Hello

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:44 pm
by kingjosephus
I really should check the forums more often!

Great to see you back Iehova - Its been a while! :D :D :D