IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
As such we ask from people to refrain from commenting on this. After all, if it is real, you don't want to party to it.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
Commenting hardly denotes complicity.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
Doesn't look like a letter from their lawyer. Be polite and ask for an explanation why you are breaching their copyright.
They may be willing to settle.
This is not legal advice.
They may be willing to settle.
This is not legal advice.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
Definitely not a lawyer, still trying to tie him down to what exactly he believes we might be infringing on!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
That being said, do you think you have a leg to stand on? (Copyright isn't something I deal with).
I would, if you think this is worth pursuing and chucking a few hundred quid at, consider going to a solicitor, or finding one who'll work pro bono.
I would, if you think this is worth pursuing and chucking a few hundred quid at, consider going to a solicitor, or finding one who'll work pro bono.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
I have a good enough grasp to know the rules of the game - I can see how they might have a justifiable copyright claim relating to the coat of arms (the modern, pixel-style one) though I think this would certainly be contestable, seeing how they were very free with their IP when they were trying to attract attention six years ago. In regards to the name - less so. The only real protection they'd be able to claim would be trademark rights, and in that case they'd have a hard time arguing that they have anything to protect - the website has gone, and the forums went years ago.
I think what Lee Phillips is possibly upset about, and I can see why, is that he sees a group of anonymous people taking and using the name and design elements of something he had a big part in creating. If they take this any further, then we will naturally explain our links with the original project etc., and take it from there. But at the moment, what we're getting are rather vague and loose demands to remove parts of our current project, and we're not about to start messing about with it without good reason.
I think what Lee Phillips is possibly upset about, and I can see why, is that he sees a group of anonymous people taking and using the name and design elements of something he had a big part in creating. If they take this any further, then we will naturally explain our links with the original project etc., and take it from there. But at the moment, what we're getting are rather vague and loose demands to remove parts of our current project, and we're not about to start messing about with it without good reason.
Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
Your legal position is poor, but your best bet is that it's not serious. It looks like a somewhat respectful email, but it falls down in several areas when examined closely. I mean, the email doesn't even capitalize "Leafstorm." No way they'd make a mistake like that.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
That's their corporate style I'm fairly sure the guy is kosher.
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All their branding is with a lowercase "l". It's what makes them cool.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
My gut feeling is that the claim to "Lovely" is pretty much bs. It's a generic word, it's not the same as "Natopia", "Babkha" or "Nelaga". That would be like protecting the words "Friendly" and "Pleasant". When it comes to images though, I would presume that their claim is stronger.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
There is no online IPO record of a "Lovely" trademark, or any trademarks owned by Leafstorm, and UK copyright law does not protect names as they are not sufficiently unique. Lovely still exists as an independent entity/organisation, so it should retain all rights to use/adapt anything created for it, and those rights should have been retained by and shared with any parts of Lovely that subsequently seceded, unless they have since been individually revoked.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
I haven't heard anything back since I gave him a brief rundown of how IP law actually works
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
His lawyers are preparing to sue you...
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
Tell Microsoft.Malliki Tosha wrote:It's a generic word, it's not the same as "Natopia", "Babkha" or "Nelaga". That would be like protecting the words "Friendly" and "Pleasant".
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Re: IMPORTANT: Leafstorm request cessation of Lovely.
Huh?
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