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Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:55 am
by K0BA
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This thread is going to be a personal account of Micronational events that primarily occurred between the years 2000 and 2003 relative to the rise and exodus of the Peoples Republic of the New Soviet Empire (PRNSE). It will be edited several times as information is added. On each major addition, a comment will be added to this thread indicating what was changed. If you have any questions regarding the content, or if you detect any bias, please leave them in the comments.

A few notes about this article:
- This is a work in progress, the author uses the "write now fix later" method of writing, some half-assed or undeveloped ideas serve as place holders to be further developed. **If you have additional information to contribute** please note it in the comments.
- These events are ancient history, often I will have to give users pseudonyms to best describe how I remember them.
- This is a draft. A final copy will be presented at a later date.

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# Overview
The Peoples Republic of the New Soviet Empire (PRNSE) was a communist micronation that had established itself in October of the year 2000 and continued to operate as a micronation until some time in the year 2003. After that point, it operated as a self-contained political simulation based on the ideals of communism which still [exists today](www.soviet-empire.com).

This document is my personal account of how it rose from obscurity and developed its micronational infrastructure, and include many details related to political scandals and the internal workings and politics of the PRNSE.

# About the author
The author of this article is largely known in the micronational world as `Yuri V Andropov`, or simply "Yuri" or, `Koba` and lastly, as `Sean Walker`. The author joined the PRNSE in January of the year 2001 and within a week was promoted to director of the KGB. After about a month or two was then promoted to the position of "General Secretary" whose primary responsibility was to lead the Communist Party of the PRNSE and organizing the operational governance of the PRNSE according to the guidance of the president (read: Supreme Leader) `Siberian Fox` who owned the PRNSE website. The author of this article later created the account `Sean Walker` who would become the president of Interland and then present the idea of a united super-state which would later be known as `Tymaria`.

# Ideology and purpose
The PRNSE existed as a source of information and included a simulation for users to learn, discuss, and develop their ideas related to Marxism. In our view micronations came in several forms, namely:
- **Secessionalist movements:** These are states who believe they have sovereign rights. Our policy was to not get too close to these nations as we acted as a micronational simulation to promote the ideals of communism whereas these entities promoted a type of real-life activism or a form of separatism.
- **Political simulators:** These nations existed to replicate as closely as possible how an actual state would work but did not mandate actual independence or action. While we respected these states, we did not relations with these entities to be compatible in our micronational framework.
- **Vanilla micronations:** Virtual worlds which adopted a particular theme or government style to mimic the real world around us. We operated in this category. We viewed this format as ideal to meet our goal to create a virtual world where we could promote, develop, and learn Marxist theories with a micronational infrastructure.
- **Role play nations:** Nations that adopted many fantasy elements and were more casual, just for fun without having a particular ideological cause. We largely categorized the Apollo sector in this group and viewed those nations as largely non-compatible in our world.

# Structure of the PRNSE

## The Red Army

## Intelligence organizations

### The KGB
So I'm new to micronations, been in town for a week, and there I see the KGB office is without a commissar. I was highly interested in intelligence operations, hence my login Yuri V. Andropov, who in the real world lead the real KGB under Brezhnev at the hight of real-life Soviet power. I asked Fox if could have the job and I got it.

At this time, I was young, ambitious, very industrious, and saw it as an opportunity to solidify my own political beliefs. I wanted to take this forming nation and turn it into a premier power. With the strategies and tactics I had learned from my father and my older brother about how the real world operates, combined with my experiences in the AOL chatroom troll wars, I was ready to build something great and the PRNSE seemed to be the perfect opportunity.

My first move was to suggest the KGB page should have a confession booth to fit in with the mockery and comedy the PRNSE website presented. I then asked `Siberian Fox` who our threats were and how we should strategically organize. He had mentioned we had friendly relations with Babkha, but also mentioned that there is a powerful nation, the Rasinate, which we should be cautious of. he stated they are militarily very strong and boast 300 or so members. He also mentioned Lyrica as a large active nation that doesn't appreciate our ideals. As the KGB director, I took my first job in micronations very seriously and I wanted to prove my worth. My goal was to mitigate any threats, so I started to build security infrastructure. At this time we were a very small nation of perhaps only 10 or 12 active citizens, so I was mostly working independently but I set my goal to look into the Rasinate and since Lyrica was the "USA" the crown jewel was to crush them.

// I had joined micronations literally after Thomas Hubert did something to piss off Siberian Fox. Fox gave me a high level overview to be careful of
// him and as a result I viewed it as a mandate to crush him wherever he existed. (someone questioned what I had against hubert in another forum
// this is what I had against him)

As the PRNSE grew, so didn't our political interests to expand the ideals of Marxism and to show that our ideals are superior. The more we expanded our political interests, the more opposition we had in the international community. In addition, I was quickly promoted to General Secretary (without relinquishing the KGB) to lead the communist party and organize the PRNSE government and I immediately tied the PRNSE foreign policy into the interests of the KGB. As a result, the need for national security increased very quickly.

The KGB admitted agents based on a few criteria, first is, they must be real-life communists. `Kuralyov` is often attributed to coining the term "costume communist", but it was the doctrine I had set for the KGB long before his arrival. In short, all because someone wears a Che T-shirt, it won't get them in the KGB. I wanted dedicated agents who believed in our cause, because if they believed in the cause, their loyalty could not be corrupted (so I thought), which meant I could mostly trust them.

When inviting new agents to the KGB, I'd often use the "disinformation mission approach" (read below to the Zhukov incident for a prime example of how this sorta, but not really blew up in my face). Typically, I'd hype up a non-situation of a non-target giving a false context and have a prospective agent go to work and see what results they could get. This alone is probably why the PRNSE had a reputation of spying on EVERYONE. Most of our actions were test missions. Don't get me wrong, we had operations in many nations, but because our foreign policy was tied into our intelligence policy, there were many grey areas as to what was spying and what was diplomacy. Our primary, target was Lyrica, but due to the recruitment process, I guess you could say we were trying to spy on everyone.

### The GRU

### The Fake-GB

# Major Events

## The Rasinate
The very first mission of the KGB was to investigate the actual power the IRQM had. At this time the KGB had no agents and I was working alone. Micronational rumors often mentioned how the Rasinate had 300 members but were mostly offline. So I wanted to know who this great power was. I created a login called "Banshee00" and posted on their forums asking to join. `Ras Diga` approved my request and I was allowed access to what appeared to be a hidden general discussion forum.

In this forum, there were very few posts, mostly Diga periodically giving some news, with `Ras Marie` commenting. Ocassionally Diga and Marie's daughter would reply. Her login was something like `HIH [Ras Something]`. It became quite clear that the IRQM was in fact the Diga family micronation with maybe one or two ocassional friends dropping in. Diga informed me that my role would be to recruit new members to the Rasinate. For the KGB this was great news. I concluded the almighty IRQM was a paper tiger that existed on a false reputation. To me this gave a green light to screw with them. If the PRNSE can go to toe-to-toe with this mighty nation, it would build the credibility of the PRNSE. It became Soviet Policy to start a cold war with the Rasinate. And as a result, I forget how, but I made myself get caught.

So the cold war began, Lord Diga was furious at the breach in security and promised strong consequences against the PRNSE and that he was mobilizing his soldiers. Various micronations chimed in on the issue, scolding us for being bad and requesting for restraint from the Rasinate. The only thing that came was a lot of angry threats from `Ras Diga` in the international community.

An important fact for later in this article is that `Ras Markle` was not active for any time I could see in their forums. I would later understand when `Ras Markle` attacked the PRNSE, it was in fact a Diga double login.

## The Free Republic and Baracao

## The Zhukov Incident

## Interland to Tymaria
Let's start this discussion with Interland was perhaps one of the most confusing states in Micronational history. In many ways it was a non-state, it was more of a proxy than anything. There was much history of Interland prior to my arrival to micronations that I cant speak for. Supposedly it was a part of Lyrica, a `Pete Krembs` project etc. But from my time in micronations,`Dom Eduardo` of Pacifica claimed it as his protectorate, but in reality `Julien Starr` had absolute control over it. And while `Dom Eduardo` viewed it as his territory and even awarded Julien and I Pacifican royal titles, Julien and I had free reign over it.

Soviet objectives for Interland were simple. Due to my strong relations with Julien, I could elevate my 'Sean Walker' login inside Interland for a position of authority and use that login to communicate with my enemies from the inside. The results were that Sean became the president of Interland and would feed in Soviet double login agents as citizens of Interland. In short, the entire Soviet GRU double logins were citizens of Interland and promoted themselves as anti-Soviet and active contributors of Interland. This gave legitimacy to their identities which allowed them to easily penetrate other nations.

# Post PRNSE

# Appendix

## Pseudonyms

### Actors

### Nations

// the next section will perhaps be a seperate in-depth guide to how PRNSE intelligence was organized
# Yuri's guide to building the ultimate spy network

## Agents

### Double agents

### Tripple agents

### Remote spies

## Nations

### Puppet states

### Faux states

## Information

### Credible information

### Disinformation

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:21 am
by K0BA
[ci skip] Developed some content for the general elements of the article.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:01 am
by Jonas Windsor
More! We want more! :twisted:

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:38 pm
by K0BA
A lot more coming down the pike... had to move this weekend so don't have the time to organize my thoughts. If any of the micronational relics have questions about who/what/why/etc. about Soviet Policy I'll for sure answer them.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:52 pm
by Edgard
Looking forward to this! I started my involvement in Micras back in 2002 with Madland (later became Alexandria). I remember you!

Just an FYI, in case you didn't know, we have a wiki - it may be easier to do it there. You login using the same credentials you use to login and post in these forums.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:37 pm
by K0BA
Oh Hey Edgard, I remember you too.... I figured I'd do my draft here to accept input, questions, answers, etc, this stuff is ancient history and it wont be up to wiki standards on the first run. Once I get the draft complete, we can post to wiki.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:15 pm
by Edgard
K0BA wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:37 pm
Oh Hey Edgard, I remember you too.... I figured I'd do my draft here to accept input, questions, answers, etc, this stuff is ancient history and it wont be up to wiki standards on the first run. Once I get the draft complete, we can post to wiki.
Fair enough! I look forward to seeing the progress. :D

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:12 pm
by K0BA
[wrote about #KGB and updated #Interland to Tymaria to reflect Peter Krembs' contribution.]

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:38 pm
by Yastreb
Question... are you fishing this all out of memory or do you have a stash of old reference material to help you? I only ask because I remember far less detail about far more recent events :oops:

It's interesting to see nations of 10+ participants described as "very small" - these days anything more than a one-man project is remarkable.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:00 am
by Ryker
Yastreb wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:38 pm
It's interesting to see nations of 10+ participants described as "very small" - these days anything more than a one-man project is remarkable.
He speaks madness brother. Not even the ancients could have had such power!

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:59 am
by Continuator
Ryker wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:00 am
Yastreb wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:38 pm
It's interesting to see nations of 10+ participants described as "very small" - these days anything more than a one-man project is remarkable.
He speaks madness brother. Not even the ancients could have had such power!
Any Atteran claim of 300 members back in the day should probably be treated with a certain caution, to put it politely. If Diga ever had that many followers he would have dispensed with the Nixonesque bluster and genuinely curb-stomped the sector.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:28 am
by Yastreb
The biggest one I was involved with was Koba's very own PRNSE reboot in the back end of 2004 which had an active membership well into the 20s (recruited from who knows where) and was briefly bigger than Shireroth. That particular smorgasbord of Stalinist LARPers, Trots, Tankies, unreconstructed Maoists, Nazbols and Antifa types ended about as well as you might expect (mercifully the left wasn't frothing with idpol rabies in those days, but it was acrimonious enough) although its death rattle did bring forth Novaya Zemlya, establishing the pattern of Disaffected Cultural Intelligentsia Exodus that I've practised in varying forms ever since...

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:32 pm
by Continuator
Yastreb wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:28 am
The biggest one I was involved with was Koba's very own PRNSE reboot in the back end of 2004 which had an active membership well into the 20s (recruited from who knows where) and was briefly bigger than Shireroth. That particular smorgasbord of Stalinist LARPers, Trots, Tankies, unreconstructed Maoists, Nazbols and Antifa types ended about as well as you might expect (mercifully the left wasn't frothing with idpol rabies in those days, but it was acrimonious enough) although its death rattle did bring forth Novaya Zemlya, establishing the pattern of Disaffected Cultural Intelligentsia Exodus that I've practised in varying forms ever since...
Did that have anything to do with (grimaces in remembrance) Krasnograd? It was a crisis of the week city state thrown up in the sim part of the sector as I recall.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:36 pm
by K0BA
Ryker wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:00 am
He speaks madness brother. Not even the ancients could have had such power!
I quote Scott Alexander:
this body of people, plus Fox, formed the core of the PRNSE, but there were many, many, more citizens…I wouldn’t be surprised if there were around a hundred.
Source: https://shireroth.org/shirewiki/Communism

Edit:
/* Dual citizenship was also Illegal in the PRNSE, it was considered espionage.
Continuator -> I'll address Rasinate's claims to 300 citizens, it is why I spied on them. It seemed there were 3 active IRQM citizens and 2 occasional users. And Diga used Markel's login to do his dirty work.
END EDIT */

BTW > Yastreb, the core of this article is by memory but I'm digging up ancient material. I need a section on Morovia apparently, forgot about them.

Re: Discourses of Yuri .md

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:24 pm
by Yastreb
Continuator wrote:Did that have anything to do with (grimaces in remembrance) Krasnograd? It was a crisis of the week city state thrown up in the sim part of the sector as I recall.
Possibly Krasnaya Zvezda, the shape-shifting personal fief of a closeted Wehraboo named Kovalenko who hung around Arminy/Slobovia/Cranda a lot. He had an axe to grind after his exposure by Kuralyov and myself in the dying days of Baracão's 3rd (or was it 4th?) Republic. I seem to recall he was drawn to Koba's new project and fell in with the Hyper-Stalinist/Militarist contingent who briefly established their own remnant coven after the project's collapse (possibly as a resurrected Krasnaya Zvezda?) and plotted to destroy Novaya Zemlya in its infancy (I forget how the scheme was uncovered but Rob Davis got a state award for it).

Alternatively it could have been the work of one of our Comintern partners (Charlotta, Red Antilles, Chinese Soviet Republic and whoever else) who tended to be more enthusuastic about stirring the international crisis pot and triggered a few scandals of that sort during mid-late 2004. If earlier I'd have said it was the work of Billy J in Noviykrazniystan or Savinkov in Arkania.

But I really don't recall with any clarity... it's all just a jumble of names and nations at this point :oops: