extreme007
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Re: extreme007
No. The reasons 'secret' moves were made was to totally hide the fact that an action was being planned. In situations where if I would post something and I know opponent commanders will do something about it already, then that's not a secret and you are abusing my 'kindness' to post it openly. For instance, say I had posted at the start saying my fleet was headed to Toketi. If I had done that, chances are Andreas or some other Tokian would have already called you guys into battle. Thus, I would have lost my surprise attack. There was too much of a chance/risk here that one of you would use it and do something to reduce your damages or something. To that effect, the 'secret' moves were made.But Extreme, that is entirely the point of secret moves. It is assumed if something is posted publicly everyone knows it, unless something specific happens to someone and they lose all communications.
The rest is still secret. Like Montague mentions, your characters wouldn't know the discussions between the characters on board an enemy ship, even though you can read the discussions in Montague's post.
EDIT: Another example would be the power-struggle on board the Omen. No one outside of Omen would know about it, until word got out. Even though I - the real me - is completely aware of the actions taking place in there, I can't use any of this information against the Omen. Well, I can't use it anyway since i am hundred of miles far. But say, Montague, who may or may not be close enough. Montague - the real person sitting in Europe somewhere - knows the power struggle on board the Omen and the presence of two factions or something. But he can't use that information against it because his characters - the captains of the ships and everyone else - do not know about it.
At least not yet. As the current situation is going, word is getting out that Omen is facing a power struggle. Soon, through allied communication and spying and all, it could potentially reach Montague's characters and then they can easily use that information.
Re: extreme007
I'm not that new to this extreme lol My question was simply for time clarification.
Re: extreme007
After rereading your attack post, extreme, I looked at the micras map. Are you actually headed south, as you stated in your post, or are you going up on the map towards the north pole, and going around to end up near Glalia?
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Re: extreme007
Well, I am just writing up a post as we speak. But to answer your question, I'll be heading south, towards Stomark/Babkha direction and then east towards Jasonia. I know heading north would not get me to Jasonia!
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Re: extreme007
then god only knows how extreme, a merc with no nation to back him financially, is affording the hundreds of missiles, bombs, and other explosives he has launched at toketi.SaiKar wrote:Yeah. The 400 and 600 missile barrages started to make me wonder exactly how many missiles all these vehicles were carrying, how fast they were able to fire them off, and how they possibly got the money to afford shooting millions of dollars of military equipment off on a whim. Plus it makes for really shitty storytelling. They banned nuclear weapons in the charter to avoid people sitting around throwing nukes at eachother. Instead people sit around throwing hundreds of missiles.
I hadn't realized recwarring had degenerated to these levels, where the backstory doesn't tie into the action because the "action" involves pressing the launch button a few hundred times per move. If I ever try to sponsor another recwar in the future, I think I'm going to have to get the main players together and work out some agreements that actually promote, like, combat and stuff.
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Re: extreme007
Remember how you all used to say how the ADB rule system was too complicated to be bothered with?
Well how about Anunia/SNARL decides the manpower while ADB decides the equipment - that way we all end up with third world armies and are forced to rely on whatever passes for an imagination and not have 1,000 cruise missile barrages nor swarms of F-22s blotting out the sun.
Well how about Anunia/SNARL decides the manpower while ADB decides the equipment - that way we all end up with third world armies and are forced to rely on whatever passes for an imagination and not have 1,000 cruise missile barrages nor swarms of F-22s blotting out the sun.
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Re: extreme007
it does seem to be very complicated (though kudos to the creator.), and possibly too complicated for practical use.
however, a sense of realism is needed. would one army have the ability to drain its nation's income? Would a person without national financing be able to afford hundreds of billions of (US) dollars worth of missiles and bombs?
Come on people, really?
however, a sense of realism is needed. would one army have the ability to drain its nation's income? Would a person without national financing be able to afford hundreds of billions of (US) dollars worth of missiles and bombs?
Come on people, really?
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Re: extreme007
The main point is of course the funding formula for which a generic schedule of rates could be drawn up... or copied across... but there are some other interesting ideas like the moral calculator which could also be brought across.
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Re: extreme007
i say we base it on the hedonic calculus.
which leaves babkha in debt to the tune of about £57 trillion...
which leaves babkha in debt to the tune of about £57 trillion...
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Re: extreme007
They're long-range supersonics. It's like, the standard cruise missile used by the navy. Sorry I wasn't specific on exactly what make, model and color my missiles were. ¬_¬
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Re: extreme007
The standard cruise missile used by the navy is subsonic, Prodigy.
And please don't get sarcy over reasonable requests.
And please don't get sarcy over reasonable requests.
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Re: extreme007
Sorry, my mistake. Mine are supersonic, though, to be clear.Lord_Montague wrote:The standard cruise missile used by the navy is subsonic, Prodigy.
I get it. So I can't do it, but you guys can? Right, forgot about the double standard.Lord_Montague wrote:And please don't get sarcy over reasonable requests.
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Re: extreme007
I've never been sarcastic towards you or anybody else this war. I also don't appreciate that double standards comment and the way you and others in your faction seem to be thinly disguising attacks on my integrity.
Thanks for clearing it up though but you are aware that if they're supersonic, their range will shorter due to fuel burn up etc?
Thanks for clearing it up though but you are aware that if they're supersonic, their range will shorter due to fuel burn up etc?
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Re: extreme007
Guys, stop being mean to Montague. Yes, he's doing thoroughly annoying secret moves every time but that's just his style of fighting. It's not illegal or anything.
Montague - for future reference, when we originally said you could be judge and fight I envisaged a small guerrilla force, not a navy attempting to single handedly take down every combatant. Maybe next time you don't judge and fight? Just for future reference.
Montague - for future reference, when we originally said you could be judge and fight I envisaged a small guerrilla force, not a navy attempting to single handedly take down every combatant. Maybe next time you don't judge and fight? Just for future reference.
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Re: extreme007
I was referring less to you personally and more to the group I refer to as "Old" micronationalists - not necessarily just people who've been around a while, more like old-fashioned. You've been much more tolerable this time then I've experienced in the past, actually. Thanks for the improvement, I guess, Monty. My anger flares hot, but it burns out quickly in most cases. Sorry...
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