Andreas
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Re: Andreas
extreme the thing is your talking about running into me at a choke point we ran across each other (as we played it) in the open ocean... the odds of that are so astronomically low its not even funny...
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Re: Andreas
the odds are about the same as NSS Camel finding my units before they even enter radar/sonar range.... except, i got two submarines (opposed to 1 NSS Camel) covering a bigger range (combined sonar range is bigger than NSS Camel's) in a small section of water (as opposed to the entire ocean between Jasonia and Toketi in NSS Camel's case). My ships know that if any enemy would come, they would have to cross this chunk of body of water.
Thus, the chances of my 2 submarines detecting your 20+ submarines in a small region of water is higher than the chances of 1 carrier detecting 5 ships in a large/huge region of water.
A bit of math/stats if you really want:
I couldn't find the exact stats for the types of sonars carried on the submarines, but some reports show they can easily hear up to 100 kms. So, if I park my submarine someplace, I could probably hear anything, say in a radius of 100 kms. (I am not including towed sonar, as I am not sure how much more it would help increase).
Two submarines marked to cover as much distance could possibly make it a 400 km wide range. That's more than the distance between Hurmu and Verona. You would also have to reduce that distance by a few more kilometers because you obviously wont be traveling by the shores (1. its national territorial waters of those nations, and 2. you would be easily seen by the granny who's taking her kids swimming at the beach). thus, I can easily cover the entire distance.
so, the odds aren't really that huge.. they are quite achievable in fact.
Thus, the chances of my 2 submarines detecting your 20+ submarines in a small region of water is higher than the chances of 1 carrier detecting 5 ships in a large/huge region of water.
A bit of math/stats if you really want:
I couldn't find the exact stats for the types of sonars carried on the submarines, but some reports show they can easily hear up to 100 kms. So, if I park my submarine someplace, I could probably hear anything, say in a radius of 100 kms. (I am not including towed sonar, as I am not sure how much more it would help increase).
Two submarines marked to cover as much distance could possibly make it a 400 km wide range. That's more than the distance between Hurmu and Verona. You would also have to reduce that distance by a few more kilometers because you obviously wont be traveling by the shores (1. its national territorial waters of those nations, and 2. you would be easily seen by the granny who's taking her kids swimming at the beach). thus, I can easily cover the entire distance.
so, the odds aren't really that huge.. they are quite achievable in fact.
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Re: Andreas
I think you're missing the original point of this recwar, Extreme. Of course you would find North (or North find you, either way). This isn't the real world. This is, in Harvey's words, a joint-story telling opportunity. There has to be a battle. Narrative Causality demands it.
Andreas
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Re: Andreas
That's exactly what I have been saying... we do a narrative battle!