[JP] Montague vs. Allenby; La Terre
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[JP] Montague vs. Allenby; La Terre
I am not seeking judicial judgement yet so I ask that His Honour Judge Zambelis consider these first posts as plea-bargaining.
Firstly, the first attack by Allenby on my forces in La Terre in this post here:
To deal first with technical issues. The plane is I believe a Dipou Antiship fighter which can only carry two torpedoes according to documents provided by the Ashkenatza. Four torpedoes however have been fired. This is impossible.The sea plane made a low pass over La Tere. A barrage of anti air fire, forced Golda to pull the stick back and push the plane into a steep climb. This was going to be harder than she thought. She banked round and headed off to sea for a bit. diving down low, she began slowed her engines. Her speed increased as her plane rode the GEV across the water. This was a trick she had learnt from her days as an Eukranoplane pilot. It also meant she could avoid enemy radar. Her engines set now to idle, her speed dropped as she approached the ship that had fired at her. Golda, kicked the engines back into life, dropped her 4 torepeados and rose sharply. With a satisfied smirk she watched two ships explode.
Secondly, as Ardashir pointed out it is not the done thing to impose casualties on an enemy within 24 hours of the response as it is god-modding. Further evidence of this God-modding is the fact that my radar apparently did not pick up on this fighter when it was incoming and that it managed to fly at low level over my positions unimpeded. Surely I should be given the right to respond to any plane invading my defended airspace. If it did evade my Radar positions, I would like to know how.
Allenby also noted in this war post the following:
Within 24 hours of this post, his attack has been launched here:Vladamirsk was now strapped firmly in the deat of his plane as speeding towards the North coast. The news that the Ocia Comander General had blocked the port of La Tere with sunken ships was a major blow. It had also caused him to be delayed while his plane was re-equiped with heavy duty depth charges which it was hoped would clear a passage somewhere. If this failed, then sea invasion was going to be almost impossible.
This is clearly another breach of the rules and godmodding. I have not had sufficient time to respond and again it is an attack being carried out without the chance for my forces to respond.Vladamirsk lowered his plane's nose. He was going in for a bombing run right over one of the sunken ships. "One of these big boys will do the trick" He thought smugly as he hummed an old Ashkeatzi victory tune. The anti air fired up, but he was too high, and it fell short. The target was in his sights... All he had to do was press the button. Suddenly. Unexpectedly, the radio blared.
"This is Pachad here." He ignored it. "This is Pachad, supreme comander of the military forces of Ashkenatza and I order you to respond." Vladirmisk picked up the radio unswering in a blasse voice. "Abort your mission now and return to base."
"Why? The shirethans are not getting all the credit for this one!"
"Do it now, or you will be shot for treachery!" Vladermisk took one look at the target that he had lined up, and pushed the button... Pachad was going to castrate him.
As a result of these blatant violations of the Charter I propose the following compromise:
1. Allenby withdraws the first attack OR launches the attack and loses that fighter before it even comes close to reaching its target.
2. Allenby withdraws the second attack but still allows its preparation and launches the attack in the appropriate time frame.
If this compromise is not agreed to I will ask for judicial judgement on the issue and I am willing to answer any questions put to me by the Judge.
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Re: Montague vs Allenby (Actions in La Terre)
Great... I was meanwhile posting a judicial petition against his actions... should i continue with that?
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Re: Montague vs Allenby (Actions in La Terre)
File an amicus brief?
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[JP] extreme007 (and perhaps Montague) vs General_Allenby;LT
(ok first of all, can't put more letters into the title.)
Alright, General_allenby said in his post
Further, (I tried searching his orbat, but to no success) I believe his aircraft is a hydroplane or something (which means, they can't fly very high compared to jets as well as fast like the jets).
Now, that being said, Montague had posted:
The possible scenarios are likely:
1. Allenby flies in very low as close as possible and then turning his aircraft into a boat to close in further. That would require him to waste a whole lot of fuel before he can engage the ships. He fires some (not at the main ship. that's not possible as the channels are blocked and he'd get detected even if boating) and then gets a salvo from Montague.
2. Allenby flies in not-low enough, gets detected and receives a salvo from Montague.
In any case, I have just realized whether or not Allenby's aircrafts have the range to engage targets in La Terra. Where's he taking off from?
Alright, General_allenby said in his post
That's his second air attack btw, in case you want to know.Meanwhile over La Tere...Vladamirsk lowered his plane's nose. He was going in for a bombing run right over one of the sunken ships. "One of these big boys will do the trick" He thought smugly as he hummed an old Ashkeatzi victory tune. The anti air fired up, but he was too high, and it fell short. The target was in his sights... All he had to do was press the button. Suddenly. Unexpectedly, the radio blared.
"This is Pachad here." He ignored it. "This is Pachad, supreme comander of the military forces of Ashkenatza and I order you to respond." Vladirmisk picked up the radio unswering in a blasse voice. "Abort your mission now and return to base."
"Why? The shirethans are not getting all the credit for this one!"
"Do it now, or you will be shot for treachery!" Vladermisk took one look at the target that he had lined up, and pushed the button... Pachad was going to castrate him.
Further, (I tried searching his orbat, but to no success) I believe his aircraft is a hydroplane or something (which means, they can't fly very high compared to jets as well as fast like the jets).
Now, that being said, Montague had posted:
The air defense, is being provided by a destroyer and 6 S-300s. Both of these, especially the later, have a huge range in terms of detecting and engaging aircrafts. Even if they are low flying ones, they get detected quite a bit earlier than the aircraft being able to fire its torpedoes or drop bombs.ODS Graf Spee puts to sea to a secret location.
ODS Fortitude has modifications to her armour being carried out.
The 6 channels to enter La Terre's harbour are blocked by sunken transport ships while two transport ships, the Directrus Star and Dalmantia Pursuit, are grounded to remain active as radar positions.
The 9 S-300s are assigned tasks in groups of three, but remain separate. The 3 tasks are Anti-Missile defence, Anti-Air Defence and All-Purpose Air Defence.
The Ocian Land Forces continue building their defences. Their defences will be manned in a day from now when the Judge will be informed of the defences along with the supply situation.
The possible scenarios are likely:
1. Allenby flies in very low as close as possible and then turning his aircraft into a boat to close in further. That would require him to waste a whole lot of fuel before he can engage the ships. He fires some (not at the main ship. that's not possible as the channels are blocked and he'd get detected even if boating) and then gets a salvo from Montague.
2. Allenby flies in not-low enough, gets detected and receives a salvo from Montague.
In any case, I have just realized whether or not Allenby's aircrafts have the range to engage targets in La Terra. Where's he taking off from?
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Re: [JP] extreme007 (and perhaps Montague) vs General_Allenby;LT
The Dipou A3 Anti-Ship Fighter has a range of 350 km and can carry on its two wing-tip pylons, either air-to-surface missiles, drop tank pods, ECM, and or guided torpedoes.I believe his aircraft is a hydroplane or something
In other words this mission could not have happened. Which is why I have taken control of all air combat operations, to prevent the recurrence of any such oversights.
As of the 2nd of September there were no Ashkenatzim control airfields north of Vena. Dipou A3s from Teyl fun Bregmeyletzen detachment assigned to II Corps are based at Klymenburg & Mitnik, on the south coast effectively, would have had to fly to Vena, refuel and then head north for the mission. Even at the most generous interpretation allowed, Vladermisk is on a one-way kamikaze flight.
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Re: Montague vs Allenby (Actions in La Terre)
(Threads merged.)
If the good General had committed one violation, I might have let him off. But a series of technical and ethical violations (most importantly that in the comment made by Ardy) means that both moves are voided. Posts edited accordingly.
If the good General had committed one violation, I might have let him off. But a series of technical and ethical violations (most importantly that in the comment made by Ardy) means that both moves are voided. Posts edited accordingly.