[JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Am I missing something? The missiles in question appear to be assigned to Dervin.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
I leave that to Mr. Kovac. Although I've been representing him our views on the matter appear to disagree and I'm under no duty to represent him. He has the ball on this issue.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Ocian military specs say they're Cruise Missiles.
Kovac says they're Ballistic Missiles.
Kovac's lying to save his skin.
Chrim wins.
Case closed.
Kovac says they're Ballistic Missiles.
Kovac's lying to save his skin.
Chrim wins.
Case closed.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Actually I'm saying they're ballistic missiles.
Case re-opened.
Case re-opened.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Does that or does that not say 'Short to long range cruise guidance missiles'?
I think this is fairly self-evident.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
What a load of it. Ballistic Missiles are guided as well had I meant to say Guidance missiles I would have done so, but I infact did not.
With regards to claims that those missiles belong to dervin, I refute that claim because you'll see that I sent 1 Special Forces Regiment to go under the command of Montague who lost troops. He is allowed to command that which allows me to take control of one of the missile commands directly
With regards to claims that those missiles belong to dervin, I refute that claim because you'll see that I sent 1 Special Forces Regiment to go under the command of Montague who lost troops. He is allowed to command that which allows me to take control of one of the missile commands directly
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Er, no kovac... dervin has to specifically post saying he's giving you the command of the missiles. and he has to post once every three days. those are the rules. and since he hasn't even bothered to post a first post in the war, he has no units to begin with. in other words, even though you have posted what units dervin will control, his units wont be recognized as existing until he posts!Matt Kovac2 wrote:With regards to claims that those missiles belong to dervin, I refute that claim because you'll see that I sent 1 Special Forces Regiment to go under the command of Montague who lost troops. He is aloud to command that which allows me to take control of one of the missile commands directly
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
What’s there not to understand??? Does American radar Signals suddenly not work when they are outside the territory of the US? Whether you like it or not the radar has the range and capability of showing targets on the radar from a wide range and this includes foreign territories. This doesn't mean we have intentions to infringe the territorial integrity of other nations, it shows that we are capable of seeing potential targets in neighboring areas and that our Ajax IPM missiles have the range and capability to hit an incoming target approaching in those areas.Maximos wrote:I feel I should also bring up with the judge that the ranges of the Ocian Ajax missiles and civil defence warning radars are incorrect and unfair.
As the maps stated in Kovac's OrBat show, the centre point of the circles (denoting range) is where the bases for missiles and radar stations respectively lie. Numerous centrepoints of these circles lie outside Ocia.
Can the Herr Rikhter (Judge Guido) please remedy this?
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Thats not true, look at the orbat, those missiles were always under my command.Er, no kovac... dervin has to specifically post saying he's giving you the command of the missiles. and he has to post once every three days. those are the rules. and since he hasn't even bothered to post a first post in the war, he has no units to begin with. in other words, even though you have posted what units dervin will control, his units wont be recognized as existing until he posts!
Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
No, Matt, they don't. Evidently you haven't understood what I was saying- I wasn't stating that your radars don't work outside of the Ocian Federation, all I meant was that many of the centrepoints of the circles on the maps which denote range lie outside of your borders, thereby inferring that you've got radar facilities outside of your own territory.Maximos wrote:
I feel I should also bring up with the judge that the ranges of the Ocian Ajax missiles and civil defence warning radars are incorrect and unfair.
As the maps stated in Kovac's OrBat show, the centre point of the circles (denoting range) is where the bases for missiles and radar stations respectively lie. Numerous centrepoints of these circles lie outside Ocia.
Can the Herr Rikhter (Judge Guido) please remedy this?
What’s there not to understand??? Does American radar Signals suddenly not work when they are outside the territory of the US? Whether you like it or not the radar has the range and capability of showing targets on the radar from a wide range and this includes foreign territories. This doesn't mean we have intentions to infringe the territorial integrity of other nations, it shows that we are capable of seeing potential targets in neighboring areas and that our Ajax IPM missiles have the range and capability to hit an incoming target approaching in those areas.
Seriously, take a look.
So what? Ballistic missiles are still different from Cruise missiles, and as long as the word 'Cruise' is on that document, that's what they are.Ballistic Missiles are guided as well had I meant to say Guidance missiles I would have done so, but I infact did not.
You may have 'meant' to say something else, but tough. You can't bend the rules to fit your own machinations 100% of the time.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Can we have a compromise on this? Establishing whether Koldoff is capable of accepting aircarft is now vital to everybody's war plans.
Oh and btw, here's another bit of Annunia law to confuse the situation.
Oh and btw, here's another bit of Annunia law to confuse the situation.
G. Missiles represent considerable military cost and strength and so are required to be costed separately. Units that carry missiles as a standard can be considered to start with the number of missiles purchasable with 5% of their points (eg a Battleship (5000) can have 250 worth of missiles, so 25 cruise missiles. A submarine (1000) could have 50 worth of missiles so 10 cruise missiles), except where this amount is greater than their normal complement of missiles, in which case they take the lower of the two. Any further missiles they require must be costed separately.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
I would say that Koldoff should be capable still, as the missiles havent yet been in the hands of kovac.. those units are originally dervin's. if he doesn't post, those units dont get activated. even if kovac actually controls some of those units.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
What if he used my missiles?
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
but he didnt... and it would be unfair in a way to change it from dervin's to yours... perhaps kovac can fire now, using your missiles. but that would be a new attack that would take place now.
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Re: [JP] Montague (representing Kovac) vs Chrimigules - Koldoff
Thats Not True, Dervin only controls the other missiles. I control one Missile command unit from the conception of the orbat