Vulture - Revolutionary Army of Crisco Claim
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Vulture - Revolutionary Army of Crisco Claim
Name & Title: Emanuel Vaix, Champion of the People
E-Mail/Contact: Howling at the moon
Nation: Revolutionary Army of Crisco
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MN URL: https://micras.org/wiki/index.php?title ... _of_Crisco
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Claim:
Notes: Following the collapse of the Shirithian government, rebels in Monty Crisco and the East bank of the Elwynn have set up their own state, fighting a guerilla war against the Imperial Regency, the Rebels seek to overthrow the government and establish a socialist paradise.
(probably be indicated on the map as contested territory)
E-Mail/Contact: Howling at the moon
Nation: Revolutionary Army of Crisco
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MN URL: https://micras.org/wiki/index.php?title ... _of_Crisco
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Claim:
Notes: Following the collapse of the Shirithian government, rebels in Monty Crisco and the East bank of the Elwynn have set up their own state, fighting a guerilla war against the Imperial Regency, the Rebels seek to overthrow the government and establish a socialist paradise.
(probably be indicated on the map as contested territory)
Porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra.
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Re: Vulture - Revolutionary Army of Crisco Claim
Whilst not being in a position to directly influence the MCS on this matter, the ESB Group wishes, in the hope that its concerns will be noted by the Shirerithian Regency as nominal MCS-level suzerain of the Ransenari lands, to make known its objections to the corporate headquarters of its Benacian operations (Teldrin) falling within the zone of control of a revolutionary organisation.
I'll take this opportunity then to propose this amendment for the Imperial Regency to adopt therefore on behalf of Ransenar:
I'll take this opportunity then to propose this amendment for the Imperial Regency to adopt therefore on behalf of Ransenar:
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Why is the Verionist Republic suddenly marked as contested? This was discussed prior. The R.A.C. should be, of course.
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Mainly because I lifted the details directly from this map taken from the Ransenar article page. You'll have to take that up with Ric and Ed.
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A few things:
1) The Verionist Republic claim is not contested.
2) The RAC has not discussed with the Regency on its claims . All other vulture states, except the Verionist Republic and the RAC, have done so, and have also achieved recognition from Shireroth prior to lodging their claims.
3) As such, I want to talk to Jack and work out a deal before I can consent to a claim/recognition here.
1) The Verionist Republic claim is not contested.
2) The RAC has not discussed with the Regency on its claims . All other vulture states, except the Verionist Republic and the RAC, have done so, and have also achieved recognition from Shireroth prior to lodging their claims.
3) As such, I want to talk to Jack and work out a deal before I can consent to a claim/recognition here.
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Ah right... That seems to be an unofficial map made by Ed for whatever purpose.Continuator wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:44 amMainly because I lifted the details directly from this map taken from the Ransenar article page. You'll have to take that up with Ric and Ed.
Given that the R.A.C. is in a self-proclaimed war with the Regency, I would say recognition will be quite impossible to attain. For narrative purposes, what I'm going for is contested territory.Ric wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:46 amA few things:
1) The Verionist Republic claim is not contested.
2) The RAC has not discussed with the Regency on its claims . All other vulture states, except the Verionist Republic and the RAC, have done so, and have also achieved recognition from Shireroth prior to lodging their claims.
3) As such, I want to talk to Jack and work out a deal before I can consent to a claim/recognition here.
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Re: Vulture - Revolutionary Army of Crisco Claim
So if you're saying, within the narrative, that the RAC would be unlikely to gain any recognised independence, then internal disputed/occupied markings would make the most sense (especially with the terrorist symbols there)
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@Craitman: exactly
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In which case the RAC wouldn't make a claim of its own, but rather dot the Monty Crisco area with terrorist activity.
Officially then: Shireroth does not recognize the claim in any form.
Officially then: Shireroth does not recognize the claim in any form.
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It is an official map, per this.Jack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:02 amAh right... That seems to be an unofficial map made by Ed for whatever purpose.Continuator wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:44 amMainly because I lifted the details directly from this map taken from the Ransenar article page. You'll have to take that up with Ric and Ed.
The Regency, acutely aware of the situation in Ransenar, and with regard to the Iron Company, and afraid of the prospect of Ransenar's full severance of ties with Shirekeep, issued an offer to the government in Goldfield, which read:
The Regency offers Ransenar full sovereignty of all of Goldshire not currently held by the Iron Company or by a recognized sovereign independent state, with the exception of Ynnraile, the status of which will be determined in coordination with Ransenar, the Sovereign Confederation, and the Raspur Pact. This offer is dependent on the ratification of the government of Ransenar of a perpetual allegiance and support to Our Lady the Radiant Sun as the Head of State of Ransenar, and Ransenar's disavowment of all her pretenders and the usurpers of her crown.
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I think Ric was saying that it was only the bomb icons that should be dotted there.
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You somehow seem to have missed the crucial sentence in your citation: "not currently held by the Iron Company or by a recognized sovereign independent state".
Since the Verionist Republic is both, I don't see how your quote backs up your claim.
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Continuator wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:18 pmI think Ric was saying that it was only the bomb icons that should be dotted there.
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Let's keep the focus on the right thing here. The Verionist Republic is a recognized sovereign independent state by the Regency and by everyone else.
The RAC is not. It is a separate entity that is supported by the Verionists as the claim here suggests, otherwise this would be a Verionist expansion, no? The claim has not been recognized as Ric stated above.
If we will mark the area as disputed or occupied, then I must ask that the standard be applied consistently and fairly and that it be applied to the Verionist Republic in Elsenar by marking it accordingly as well, as presented previously.
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