Urgent Request
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Urgent Request
Hi there,
I'm trying to do some more articles about various micronational wars (you may have noticed the start of my massive undertaking on cataloguing the Amokolian War) and for that purpose would like someone to create a Military Conflict Infobox Template for me. Batavia's Wiki has a simplified version which would do equally well- I've tried making it myself but have been met with failure at every turn.
If someone could help me with this as soon as possible you'd be a great help and I can go back to working on my MicrasWiki articles.
Cheers,
Max
I'm trying to do some more articles about various micronational wars (you may have noticed the start of my massive undertaking on cataloguing the Amokolian War) and for that purpose would like someone to create a Military Conflict Infobox Template for me. Batavia's Wiki has a simplified version which would do equally well- I've tried making it myself but have been met with failure at every turn.
If someone could help me with this as soon as possible you'd be a great help and I can go back to working on my MicrasWiki articles.
Cheers,
Max
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Done - I copied Wikipedia's so it should work the same as that one - if it doesn't, let me know!
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An hero you truly are.
If there's a way you could work in the Flag Icon template into it the conflict infoboxes will look even more professional!
EDIT: it's OK- got the flags working thanks! Take a look at the nearly finished product!
If there's a way you could work in the Flag Icon template into it the conflict infoboxes will look even more professional!
EDIT: it's OK- got the flags working thanks! Take a look at the nearly finished product!
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Nifty...
Honoured Servant of the Jingdaoese Heavenly Light and the Kaiseress of Shireroth
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Cheers- wish someone else could help me out with the Wiki Niftifying...
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It is the Holidays y'know. Some of us actually like to spend time with family.
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Well, if you get sick of family in the festive season, MicrasWiki is all yours!
Though in my experience MicrasWiki is more demanding than any family member I know...
Anyway I am very happy to announce that I have finally completed my big project to fully catalogue the Amokolian/Ocian War on MicrasWiki. You can see the finished product here- I have tried to be as concise as possible and have tried to also report what happened honestly and without bias.
I know some people won't like what I've written but if you have a complaint about the article please make it constructively (as opposed to HE FASHIST!!) and give me some constructive criticism and I'll do what I can to improve it.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that I have had, now, four requests to write MicrasWiki articles for people. I won't name any names but I do personally feel that this is a little unreasonable- perhaps the biggest reason for my work on MicrasWiki is that I want to encourage people to start working on articles themselves, rather than for me to be seen as someone who'll do the entire community's Wiki work for it. I feel we need to publicise the idea that writing a MicrasWiki article is actually beneficial to one's micronation; it looks professional, gives extra publicity, and will be an accurate record of your nation when it's dead and gone from the map. If we all do a little, MicrasWiki can be something really great and from where I'm standing it needs a hell of a lot of work done on it- for a Wiki hosted on the MCS' website, the pages on the MCS and Micras are pretty piecemeal and outdated.
If anyone wants to help me develop MicrasWiki (I simply can't do it all on my own and will very probably give up at some point if there's no interest from anybody else), they're very welcome!
Sorry about the rant but I hope you find the article interesting!
Can I have a FNORD please?
Though in my experience MicrasWiki is more demanding than any family member I know...
Anyway I am very happy to announce that I have finally completed my big project to fully catalogue the Amokolian/Ocian War on MicrasWiki. You can see the finished product here- I have tried to be as concise as possible and have tried to also report what happened honestly and without bias.
I know some people won't like what I've written but if you have a complaint about the article please make it constructively (as opposed to HE FASHIST!!) and give me some constructive criticism and I'll do what I can to improve it.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that I have had, now, four requests to write MicrasWiki articles for people. I won't name any names but I do personally feel that this is a little unreasonable- perhaps the biggest reason for my work on MicrasWiki is that I want to encourage people to start working on articles themselves, rather than for me to be seen as someone who'll do the entire community's Wiki work for it. I feel we need to publicise the idea that writing a MicrasWiki article is actually beneficial to one's micronation; it looks professional, gives extra publicity, and will be an accurate record of your nation when it's dead and gone from the map. If we all do a little, MicrasWiki can be something really great and from where I'm standing it needs a hell of a lot of work done on it- for a Wiki hosted on the MCS' website, the pages on the MCS and Micras are pretty piecemeal and outdated.
If anyone wants to help me develop MicrasWiki (I simply can't do it all on my own and will very probably give up at some point if there's no interest from anybody else), they're very welcome!
Sorry about the rant but I hope you find the article interesting!
Can I have a FNORD please?
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But it's not the family who's buggering me, it are the exams... so a bit of patience.
Like I said by pm: count me in!
To-Do list:
- Imperial Republic of Shireroth
- Kaiser of Shireroth
- Dutchy of Kildare
- Redoubt Island War
- The several Eras of Shireroth (fictional and non-fictional ones)
Like I said by pm: count me in!
To-Do list:
- Imperial Republic of Shireroth
- Kaiser of Shireroth
- Dutchy of Kildare
- Redoubt Island War
- The several Eras of Shireroth (fictional and non-fictional ones)
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To be honest I can only do good articles for micronations I've been involved with so my to-do list as as follows:
-Matbaa
-Zatriarch of Matbaa
-Taylor Bay War
-Lovelian War (think this was hosted on Riponia's forums so all the information on it may be lost forever)
-Circum-Reynor War
-Matbaa
-Zatriarch of Matbaa
-Taylor Bay War
-Lovelian War (think this was hosted on Riponia's forums so all the information on it may be lost forever)
-Circum-Reynor War
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Maximos wrote:Well, if you get sick of family in the festive season, MicrasWiki is all yours!
Though in my experience MicrasWiki is more demanding than any family member I know...
Anyway I am very happy to announce that I have finally completed my big project to fully catalogue the Amokolian/Ocian War on MicrasWiki. You can see the finished product here- I have tried to be as concise as possible and have tried to also report what happened honestly and without bias.
I know some people won't like what I've written but if you have a complaint about the article please make it constructively (as opposed to HE FASHIST!!) and give me some constructive criticism and I'll do what I can to improve it.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that I have had, now, four requests to write MicrasWiki articles for people. I won't name any names but I do personally feel that this is a little unreasonable- perhaps the biggest reason for my work on MicrasWiki is that I want to encourage people to start working on articles themselves, rather than for me to be seen as someone who'll do the entire community's Wiki work for it. I feel we need to publicise the idea that writing a MicrasWiki article is actually beneficial to one's micronation; it looks professional, gives extra publicity, and will be an accurate record of your nation when it's dead and gone from the map. If we all do a little, MicrasWiki can be something really great and from where I'm standing it needs a hell of a lot of work done on it- for a Wiki hosted on the MCS' website, the pages on the MCS and Micras are pretty piecemeal and outdated.
If anyone wants to help me develop MicrasWiki (I simply can't do it all on my own and will very probably give up at some point if there's no interest from anybody else), they're very welcome!
Sorry about the rant but I hope you find the article interesting!
Can I have a FNORD please?
The article unsurprisingly takes a biased ashkenatzi view of the war and it leaves out many of the military victories achieved by Ocia. The article draws all of its sources from only one side, and it only has quotes taken from one side of the conflict. The article also conveniently leaves out facts like that the Ashkenatzi military highly relied on the logistical support of Mr. Ardy Khan who no doubt played a pivotal role in ashkenatza's campaign. Three major facts were left out. For one, Radchenko's ingenious pincer movement which crippled the invading force in a single blow was a move which garnered victory and the eventual retreat of occupying forces from Ocia. The Ocian Airforce outnumbered any of the attacking Air forces and we were able to maintain air superiority by shooting down a large number of Antican air force jets shortly after the commencement of the Keltan campaign. Lastly, the massive commando raid which delivered the final blow to the occupiers in Lucern is iconic since it has become known as a story of the Ocian self sacrifice which made the liberation struggle successful.
Please, forgive us for thinking that Guido Zambelis a citizen of ashkenatza and a long time critic of Ocia, was a biased judge. Regardless, the sheer fact that it took 7 different nations to combat Ocia in war is in itself a great honor and a victory.
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Thanks for making those points, Matt- I'll do what I can to work them into the article, though short of declaring the entire war an Ocian Victory (which I simply refuse to do, as it quite obviously wasn't) I doubt what I do will satisfy you.
I have tried to be reasonable and give due credit to Ocian sucesses where and when they merited it- such as Montague's defence of La Terre- but I cannot in all honesty falsify history to proclaim successes for Ocia where they did not occur.
Had you stuck around to fight the war out instead of throwing a tantrum, for all we know Ocian troops could well have done, but you didn't even give them a chance.
I would advise you to take a look at the maps before and after the war. Remember those Ocian territories on Leng, Vistoc, Apollonia, and Benacia? Yes? They're no longer Ocian after the war- funny, that! Wonder why.
Oh yeah, you lost.
If you want, I can provide you with a reference to every one of these accusations to refresh your memory.
However, the only way I can possibly make you happy with the article is to falsify history and declare an Ocian victory, which I am not prepared to do.
EDIT: Incidentally I would read the fact that seven nations fought against you as a sign of the sheer number of nations on Micras who just can't stand Ocia.
I have tried to be reasonable and give due credit to Ocian sucesses where and when they merited it- such as Montague's defence of La Terre- but I cannot in all honesty falsify history to proclaim successes for Ocia where they did not occur.
I think you will find that I refer to Ardy Khan as Pachad Emet ben Mavet, the name he took as an Ashkenatzi citizen. Contrary to what you claim, I've never once tried to hide the fact that much of Ashkenatza's military success was due to his involvement- in fact I believe I quite openly stated that in the article by point out that he was in fact Commander in Chief of our forces.The article also conveniently leaves out facts like that the Ashkenatzi military highly relied on the logistical support of Mr. Ardy Khan who no doubt played a pivotal role in ashkenatza's campaign
Matt, I think you're suffering from selective amnesia here. Your 'massive commando raid' and Radchenko's assault on Lucern were both disregarded since both of you made absolutely no effort to admit any losses whatsoever in your troops, nor did you take into account the distance between Directus and Lucern in deploying your troops there. The withdrawal of allied troops from Ocia occurred when you made the contradictory claims that 'no Ocian should participate in this BS biased war' and that 'there will be no Ocian surrender'. You also kept an excess of 9000 points over your OrBat for an Ocian Air Defence Command you couldn't afford, created fantastically unrealistic specifications for the Ocian variant of the Gripen, all of which left the judge with no option but to proclaim a forced peace. Ashkenatzi and Antican troops didn't get far into Ocia, I grant you that, but to say they were beaten back by an Ocian attack is completely disingenuous.For one, Radchenko's ingenious pincer movement which crippled the invading force in a single blow was a move which garnered victory and the eventual retreat of occupying forces from Ocia [...]the massive commando raid which delivered the final blow to the occupiers in Lucern is iconic since it has become known as a story of the Ocian self sacrifice which made the liberation struggle successful
Had you stuck around to fight the war out instead of throwing a tantrum, for all we know Ocian troops could well have done, but you didn't even give them a chance.
I would advise you to take a look at the maps before and after the war. Remember those Ocian territories on Leng, Vistoc, Apollonia, and Benacia? Yes? They're no longer Ocian after the war- funny, that! Wonder why.
Oh yeah, you lost.
If you want, I can provide you with a reference to every one of these accusations to refresh your memory.
However, the only way I can possibly make you happy with the article is to falsify history and declare an Ocian victory, which I am not prepared to do.
EDIT: Incidentally I would read the fact that seven nations fought against you as a sign of the sheer number of nations on Micras who just can't stand Ocia.
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You wouldn't read it as 7 nations eager to jump on the land grab express? The judge was biased no doubt, had there been a more neutral judge Amokolia and the overseas territories would have been still lost but the defence of the mainland territories would have been completely successful. The pincer movement was such a successful move that guy was looking for any way to discredit it.Maximos wrote: EDIT: Incidentally I would read the fact that seven nations fought against you as a sign of the sheer number of nations on Micras who just can't stand Ocia.
In the article you basically fabricated information on the spot by talking about how ashkenatza was trying to 'facilitate a regime change' and how if there was a victory ashkenatza was going to 'install dervin as President.' All of this was never mentioned in the war and as I'm sure you are aware the charter says nothing about how a victorious party in a war can do such things. It is only another way in which you try and seem condescending in the article.
It is undoubtedly a great honor to participate in a war when the odds are so against you because it shows how formidable your opponents think you are.
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Those were the initial objectives of the Keltian front which had been discussed in secret in Ashkenatza's HaNokem Sholom Tower. You couldn't have known about them beforehand and I released that information in the public domain by way of the article as I figured disclosing some of the more secretive elements of the Operation would make the article more interesting to those who had taken part in the war. Ashkenatzi territorial ambitions in the war were confined to Benacia- I can't speak for other powers who took part but we simply wanted to depose your government and, as I quoted 'instil a general sense of failure' in the Ocian war effort. So it's not 'fabrication', it's disclosing previously secret information. I very much doubt you would have disclosed Ocian plans made in secret had you wrote the article, Matt.ashkenatza was trying to 'facilitate a regime change' and how if there was a victory ashkenatza was going to 'install dervin as President.'
We set foot in your homeland, whilst no Ocian troops reached Ashkenatzi, Antican, or Babkhan territory, so I suppose instilling a 'general sense of failure' worked!
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Kovac, your BS about me being biased is moderately acceptable in the course of the war, but to keep it up afterwards is thoroughly unprofessional.
Also, if the article is so horribly biased, change it - that's what wikis are for...
Also, if the article is so horribly biased, change it - that's what wikis are for...