Concerning New Victoria & SCUE
Concerning New Victoria & SCUE
To Whom It May Concern,
It was brought to my attention by a friend that, a couple of days, the subject of the Kingdom of New Victoria's membership of SCUE was brought into question. I sincerely apologize for the confusion. The Kingdom of New Victoria is not part of SCUE, because it was never part of it.
We ratified the SCUE Treaty in The Currency Act (2012). But that act was deleted due to server issues. The subsequent Nullification Act (2013) nullified all acts that were erased due to server issues. So, legally speaking, we were never a member state, meaning there was no need to renounce it. However, I can issue an Imperial Decree to that effect, should you need one.
Thank You,
Charles The Emperor
It was brought to my attention by a friend that, a couple of days, the subject of the Kingdom of New Victoria's membership of SCUE was brought into question. I sincerely apologize for the confusion. The Kingdom of New Victoria is not part of SCUE, because it was never part of it.
We ratified the SCUE Treaty in The Currency Act (2012). But that act was deleted due to server issues. The subsequent Nullification Act (2013) nullified all acts that were erased due to server issues. So, legally speaking, we were never a member state, meaning there was no need to renounce it. However, I can issue an Imperial Decree to that effect, should you need one.
Thank You,
Charles The Emperor
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Re: Concerning New Victoria & SCUE
Elwynn will not support a New Victorian re-admission if THAT is the reason New Victoria isn't part.
Elwynn will in fact not support any engagement with New Victoria until its foreign policies have matured, its government matured, its respect of law matured and that it respects its fellow nations on the planet. You put a lot of countries in difficult positions by your constant nullifications here and there of laws, treaties and other measures. Elwynn sympathizes with the difficulties but not in the way these difficulties have been handled.
Of course, you may reconsider before the Administrator makes his receipt known. If such, Elwynn will not object to the continued membership of New Victoria but no reapplication will meet Elwynn's support.
Elwynn will in fact not support any engagement with New Victoria until its foreign policies have matured, its government matured, its respect of law matured and that it respects its fellow nations on the planet. You put a lot of countries in difficult positions by your constant nullifications here and there of laws, treaties and other measures. Elwynn sympathizes with the difficulties but not in the way these difficulties have been handled.
Of course, you may reconsider before the Administrator makes his receipt known. If such, Elwynn will not object to the continued membership of New Victoria but no reapplication will meet Elwynn's support.
Elijah Ayreon the Dead
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Re: Concerning New Victoria & SCUE
I apologize: the wording of that did not come out too well. The Kingdom of New Victoria does not legally see itself as part of SCUE, however it also no longer has the ability to form its own currency. So no, we won't be applying for admission again. The Commonwealth will have its own currency, built into the website. That we can pay citizens per post and subtract taxes more easily. SCUE is a great system but, in retrospect, it's not the best for New Victoria.Elijah Ayreon wrote:Elwynn will not support a New Victorian re-admission if THAT is the reason New Victoria isn't part.
Elwynn will in fact not support any engagement with New Victoria until its foreign policies have matured, its government matured, its respect of law matured and that it respects its fellow nations on the planet. You put a lot of countries in difficult positions by your constant nullifications here and there of laws, treaties and other measures. Elwynn sympathizes with the difficulties but not in the way these difficulties have been handled.
Of course, you may reconsider before the Administrator makes his receipt known. If such, Elwynn will not object to the continued membership of New Victoria but no reapplication will meet Elwynn's support.
May I ask what the problem with our foreign policies is? The Cultural Commonwealth of Realms (which handles New Victorian diplomacy) will gladly enter into diplomatic relations with any and all member states of the Micronational Cartography Society. The other restrictions, concerning size and government type, are only used for non-member states, from MicroWiki for example. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear in my original post.
We also have no hostile feelings towards any other nation on Micras. All the idiotic remarks of my brother's very short reign have been formally repudiated by the entire Commonwealth, via an Act of the Supreme Quorum. George has furthermore been banished, and all his assets reverted to The Crown. If you feel there is something else we can do to distance ourself from his hostility, let me know.
Concerning nullifications: All New Victorian treaties with foreign entities were nullified because New Victoria is now a member state of a larger entity, and is thus no longer in control of diplomatic issues. We would be glad to reinstate any of these treaties in the name of the Commonwealth. We nullified them because it would not be fair to those nations who signed treaties with New Victoria, to be automatically associated with our other realms. Also, the only laws that I have ever allowed to be nullified were the ones that were erased by server issues, and anything passed by my brother. You will find all other acts of parliament securely enacted on the new website.
That all being said, I do not feel that we (besides George, obviously) have acted unreasonably. If you feel differently, I am open to (constructive) criticism. Do you have any suggestions for the International Government of the Cultural Commonwealth of Realms?
Thank You,
Charles The Emperor
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Re: Concerning New Victoria & SCUE
I'll take this as notification that you've left the SCUE, because from our perspective you applied for membership, were accepted and got your starting money, so you were in. I'm not particularly fussed how you view it legally, since from a practical perspective you leaving and you never having been a member works out to be the same thing. Just don't have any of your citizens move your starting money around (since from your perpsective you never had it) before I get a chance to delete you from the bank and we're all good.
Andreas
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
"He showed up three or four years ago and accidentally took over the micronational world by being way more competent and enthusiastic than everyone else. Now he sort of rules us all, but it's a benevolent sort of thing, as far as we know."
~Scott Alexander
Re: Concerning New Victoria & SCUE
OK, will do. I apologize for leaving so quickly, but we decided that, since the whole Government had to be rebuilt, we might as well make some changes while it was easy. I don't think you'll have any trouble with people moving money around, but I'll alert any former account holders.Andreas the Wise wrote:I'll take this as notification that you've left the SCUE, because from our perspective you applied for membership, were accepted and got your starting money, so you were in. I'm not particularly fussed how you view it legally, since from a practical perspective you leaving and you never having been a member works out to be the same thing. Just don't have any of your citizens move your starting money around (since from your perpsective you never had it) before I get a chance to delete you from the bank and we're all good.