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Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:41 pm
by NewZimiaGov
This vote will end in two days. Nations which have note yet voted include Sangun, Stars, Natopia, Shireroth, Passio-Corum, the Brettish Isles*, Presburn**, and Sonarland**. Any nations which do not vote will be regarded as having abstained.
*Awaiting confirmation that Jack is allowed to vote on behalf of the Brettish Isles.
**These nations can be considered dead, and will be removed following the conclusion of this vote.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:22 am
by Lord Erion
Natopia votes NAY,
...but with the following proviso: " that in the event of the amendment being adopted by the state parties, the change to the Treaty is nevertheless ratified, by this resolution, allowing Natopia to remain a member of the SCUE."
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:57 am
by Jack
The appointment was made in a private forum in the Brettish Isles. Here is the particular post:
Thank you, Lord Chancellor. I am, at least, relieved that the matter was handled without great public discord or rancour.
In the future, I ask that all foreign proposals be brought to my attention, first. This is especially important as there are many areas to attend to which I am not aware of. I have no problem taking advice and counsel from any citizen or member of this Council; but, both due to constitutionality, and out of respect for the Protectorship itself, it is important that matters of foreign policy and finance are cleared here.
Also, I would be happy to appoint Mr. Sherrinford to a post so as to grant him the ability to exercise the authority of this government, provided it run by the Office of Lord Protector first.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:59 am
by Jack
Also, as Steward of the Imperial Republic of Shireroth, in the absence of H.N. the Kaiser, I cast the vote of NAY on behalf of the Imperial Government of Shireroth.
http://bastionunion.org/forum/viewtopic ... 04#p118104
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:39 pm
by NewZimiaGov
Ok, I will update my score sheet then.
Regarding the proposed amenmdent, Passio-Corum votes AYE.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:20 pm
by NewZimiaGov
This vote is now closed. The proposed amendment has failed to pass.
Alexandria : AYE
Brettish Isles : NAY
Ergonia : ABSTAIN
Flanders : NAY
Toketi : AYE
Greater Sangun : ABSTAIN
Hamland : AYE
Mercury : AYE
Natopia : NAY
Passio Corum : AYE
Presburn : ABSTAIN
Shireroth : NAY
Sonarland : ABSTAIN
Stars : ABSTAIN
Stormark : AYE
Vyktory : AYE
Coria : NAY
Counting Abstentions
AYE : 41%
NAY : 29%
Not Counting Abstentions
AYE : 58%
NAY : 41%
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:32 pm
by Ric
It has not passed. A majority of ALL member states must approve. This has not happened.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:21 pm
by Lord Erion
Ric wrote:It has not passed. A majority of ALL member states must approve. This has not happened.
Quite correct. Only 41% of all the member nations have voted in favour, so the proposal fails.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:46 pm
by Jack
The SCUE should be glad this was not passed. It would be devastating for the organisation.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:26 pm
by NewZimiaGov
Ive edited my post.
Jack wrote:The SCUE should be glad this was not passed. It would be devastating for the organisation.
Oh yeah? Thats why the majority of members who voted, voted in favor, right? I suppose the bank would have lost Shiretoth and Flanders, but neither of those would count as "devastating" losses.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:09 am
by Hālian
It has not passed. A majority of ALL member states must approve. This has not happened.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:15 am
by NewZimiaGov
What's your point?
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:36 am
by Malliki
Duke Sinclair wrote:Ive edited my post.
Jack wrote:The SCUE should be glad this was not passed. It would be devastating for the organisation.
Oh yeah? Thats why the majority of members who voted, voted in favor, right? I suppose the bank would have lost Shiretoth and Flanders, but neither of those would count as "devastating" losses.
Yes, because anything backed by a majority is automatically a good idea.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:29 am
by NewZimiaGov
Malliki wrote:Yes, because anything backed by a majority is automatically a good idea.
Don't be such a drama queen. It isn't a good idea just because it's backed by a majority of voters. It's a good idea on its own merit.
The facts speak for themselves. This proposal obviously did not fail due to a lack of support. With that in mind, you can rest assured that I will continue to fight for this amendment. This issue is far from resolved.
Re: [Charter Amendment] Administrative Taxes/Reimbursements
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:31 am
by Malliki
Your argument against this being devastating for the SCUE was that a plurality voted for it. I call that a bad argument.