Beaugium
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Beaugium
needs to be removed. Seriously, look at its forum. Every post in the last year or so has been made by spambots.
Hâlian, Magic: The Gathering player/baseball and gridiron fan/computer guy/conlinguist and worldbuilder/tabletop and video game fan too
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They also have a good lot of threads entitled "12,000 reason why..." which are contributed to by genuine members, but yeah, not particularly micronational...
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It effectively died two-three years ago. Didn't anyone notice before now?
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Well, if a nation's forum's active and nobody submits a removal, we can't really just remove them. They shall be included in this month's "lot" though, once I've gone through everyone...
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Community participation should be as much a factor in a micronation's "activity" as forum posts. I realize that takes more observation on behalf of the council members, but it's important to recognize that the MCS is designed to facilitate community, not just cartography. There are many micronations that don't have active forums, but who take an active role in the community through diplomacy, sports, economics, or other aspects. Beaugium, on the other hand, doesn't meet any of these criteria.
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I must agree with Ryan... and admit sadly that Interland is one of the countries that exist only in intermicronational space lately . We want to reestablish internal activity in what we believe will be Polish equivalent of Bastion Union.
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IRL just a random guy from Poland. Still learning English.
IRL just a random guy from Poland. Still learning English.
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Well, we've changed to facilitate nations whose primary base for activity is wiki articles, but I have to disagree on the part of looking at people's "community participation" as a nation's activity. Only nations have land on Micras, not individuals, so we must use the nation's activity rather than what its citizens are doing elsewhere. If the nation's own, designated forum is getting no posts, that one of its citizens is managing a sports team in another nation (for example) has absolutely no relevance to their activity. Heck, if we allowed nation's to claim citizens' unrelated posts on other forums as activity, Craitland and Mercury could eat-up the rest of Keltia 'cause of Joe's and my activity on the HubOrion wrote:Community participation should be as much a factor in a micronation's "activity" as forum posts. I realize that takes more observation on behalf of the council members, but it's important to recognize that the MCS is designed to facilitate community, not just cartography. There are many micronations that don't have active forums, but who take an active role in the community through diplomacy, sports, economics, or other aspects.
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As I understand it, developing your own football league has always been considered part of a nation's culture, so can be taken into account for activity purposes. I think it's weighted a lot less than forum activity though, as that's still the only properly quantifiable way of measuring activity.
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I was suggesting national activity, as opposed to individual activity. For example, Reunion has never been very active on the internet, yet over the years (and they've been around since before 1999) they've maintained an extremely impressive foreign affairs portfolio. The fact that they seek out and establish relations with numerous micronations and micronational organizations warrants, at the very least, some sort of acknowledgment as activity. It's not the basis by which to judge all their activity, but it is a component of that judgement. If I go an participate in a Song of the Day thread on Bastion, that isn't a good judgment of Apollantis' activity. But the ongoing and detailed negotiations I'm having with Shireroth/Kildare are a good example. Same can be said for Craitland and their/your contribution through FMF. Craitland hasn't always been the most active micronation, but you contribute to community by your work on the FMF and sports hosted therein. It's a judgement of quality, not quantity. But again, that is only one component by which judgement should be passed. If you combine that assessment with forum activity, you have a good formula for determining overall activity levels.Craitman wrote:Well, we've changed to facilitate nations whose primary base for activity is wiki articles, but I have to disagree on the part of looking at people's "community participation" as a nation's activity. Only nations have land on Micras, not individuals, so we must use the nation's activity rather than what its citizens are doing elsewhere. If the nation's own, designated forum is getting no posts, that one of its citizens is managing a sports team in another nation (for example) has absolutely no relevance to their activity. Heck, if we allowed nation's to claim citizens' unrelated posts on other forums as activity, Craitland and Mercury could eat-up the rest of Keltia 'cause of Joe's and my activity on the HubOrion wrote:Community participation should be as much a factor in a micronation's "activity" as forum posts. I realize that takes more observation on behalf of the council members, but it's important to recognize that the MCS is designed to facilitate community, not just cartography. There are many micronations that don't have active forums, but who take an active role in the community through diplomacy, sports, economics, or other aspects.
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Effectively, that's what we do already. When looking through forums/wikis/websites, I don't just check for quantity, but I try my best to check that the posts nations are getting actually have developmental benefits. Like I said, forums are no longer the only way we check activity, so if your nation is discussing something major, but in another's forum, then there should be some sort of initiative to bring it over to your own nation's forum or create a wiki article about it to ensure that you get the most out of it
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Ok, seems we're essentially saying the same thing, so I'll get off the soapbox.
Also, while we're on reductions/removals, A1's forum has been dead for almost three months (05/25 was my last correspondence there, and only two posts by citizens since then). Plus two of their republics seceded. Not trying to be biased, but just sayin'.
Also, while we're on reductions/removals, A1's forum has been dead for almost three months (05/25 was my last correspondence there, and only two posts by citizens since then). Plus two of their republics seceded. Not trying to be biased, but just sayin'.
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Looks like A1 will have another month to live now though, unless Adam can put in an extra removal?
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Fishy's quit micronationalism.
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Yeah, and I haven't seen anybody taking over, so it will have to be removed I think.Senya wrote:Fishy's quit micronationalism.
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Until three months have passed with no (genuine) posts, A1 shall stay on the map as any other nation would in the same situation. If they need removing come September, they will be