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Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:53 pm
by vmsb123
Well, I told myself I would do this, and two months later I'm starting. Here we go!

Serie A:

Veil Mehoniel:
Caps - 2
Goals - 0

Benjamin Giovanni Duffy:
Caps - 11
Goals - 4

Omar Westerlo:
Caps - 7
Goals -3

Matteo Cordova Marin:
Caps - 3
Goals - 0

Raine Vlondett:
Caps - 14
Goals - 4

Kalvin Ozzie:
Caps - 1
Goals - 1

Ferdinando Michelluzzi:
Caps - 8
Goals - 0

Ibrahim Lukaku:
Caps - 4
Goals - 2

Michael Roger:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Denis:
Caps - 13
Goals - 6

Pinto Juarez:
Caps - 4
Goals - 0

Damjani Lazic:
Caps - 11
Goals - 0

Riiser Marka:
Caps - 5
Goals - 0

Georgis Anasthopolis:
Caps - 6
Goals - 0

Stephan van Hajn:
Caps - 44
Goals - 27

Jason Ajax:
Caps - 43
Goals - 13

Tobias Vorgensen:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Oskar Lapacz:
Caps - 39
Goals - 17

Ian Villa:
Caps - 30
Goals - 19

Bruce Agilorer:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Roald Jorgensen:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Ewald Wolfram:
Caps - 22
Goals - 7

Ahmed Duade:
Caps - 12
Goals - 3

Maximillian Rodriguez:
Caps - 2
Goals - 0

Tim Muller:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Oscar Sarioglu:
Caps - 3
Goals - 1

Ronald van Vlaenderen:
Caps - 2
Goals - 1

Stoney Fox:
Caps - 10
Goals - 1

Wellen Delbosco:
Caps - 2
Goals - 0

Karim Benyamina:
Caps - 7
Goals - 0

Lars Mkvenner:
Caps - 22
Goals - 4

Sulei Meqba:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Sergio Gonzales-Rodriguez:
Caps - 7
Goals - 0

Rodriguinho:
Caps - 4
Goals - 1

Ga Syafiq:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Guillermo Trescrara:
Caps - 44
Goals - 18

Kwesi Themba:
Caps - 9
Goals - 2

Jonas van Vore:
Caps - 14
Goals - 1

Younes Elderman:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Juninho Santos:
Caps - 20
Goals - 2

Samuel Sebhat:
Caps - 3
Goals - 0

Jonjo Mawar:
Caps - 4
Goals - 0

Mahfuz Abdul-Ghafar:
Caps - 2
Goals - 0

Klemen Lvrc:
Caps - 14
Goals - 3

Billie Rrannaa:
Caps - 11
Goals - 1

Alex Bridgeworth:
Caps - 12
Goals - 5

Mike Muller:
Caps - 1
Goals - 0

Stephen Briggs:
Caps - 2
Goals - 0

Vladimir Guojoneriksen:
Caps - 5
Goals - 2

Cristophe Barrahon:
Caps - 12
Goals - 0

Shaz Khalid:
Caps - 10
Goals - 0

Ali Chaaban:
Caps - 1
Goals - 1

Cerder Vosin:
Caps - 21
Goals - 10

Loyal Vernadeu:
Caps - 3
Goals - 0

Karter jenHalain:
Caps - 21
Goals - 2

Tuncay Korkmazojk:
Caps - 7
Goals - 1

Jean-Baptiste Alain:
Caps - 31
Goals - 8

Svante Samuelsson:
Caps - 4
Goals - 1

Ricardo Carlton:
Caps - 27
Goals - 11

Armand Gothenstaad:
Caps - 7
Goals - 2

Kevin Degroot:
Caps - 6
Goals - 2

Eeral Devona:
Caps - 3
Goals - 0

There you have it.

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:23 pm
by Craitman
vmsb123 wrote:Guojoneriksen
*Guðjóneriksen :P

Are these actually based on genuine stats you've managed to compile from different resources, or are they just made-up? Only asking 'cause some nations might actually keep track of their players' caps/goals, and doing the latter would cause a bit of a problem :)

I have to admit, I'm not too keen on people working on individual players' statistics who aren't from their own nation, even if they might be easy to attain (which doesn't seem too likely as statistics for qualifiers aren't given). Some nations may not think players you've attributed caps to would have been good enough to gain any, for example. Plus, I can see a problem with players like Ian Villa who have had a few nationalities over the years; are his 30 caps split between his previous nations (and if so, by how much), or are they all for his current representation? There's just too many variables which could lead to things being wrong - and it's probably better to have no statistics than incorrect statistics in these instances.

I know you're trying to help, and it's definitely welcomed, but I'd advocate a position of only working on one's own national players' statistics for now :)

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:04 pm
by vmsb123
Ok uhm all of the ones with stats that have already been recorded are reported as those stats. The others all are made up but I've checked to make sure the exact games played, not exaggerated and added games because the players aren't world class after all. It's weighted on the skill of the nation and the age and skill of the player. As for Villa, it's all of his caps. And ok, sorry for the inconvenience.

EDIT: Also, sorry to bother but some of the players I've included you should really keep an eye on. Do you want me to PM them to you? I only say this so you know which bright stars the league has to offer for national teams as I know you don't pay too much to domestic football that is not in craitland.

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:35 pm
by Gerenia
vmsb123 wrote: Eeral Devona:
Caps - 3
Goals - 0
*Goals - 1 (As seen here) ;)

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:47 pm
by vmsb123
International caps dummy!

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:07 pm
by Craitman
vmsb123 wrote:EDIT: Also, sorry to bother but some of the players I've included you should really keep an eye on. Do you want me to PM them to you? I only say this so you know which bright stars the league has to offer for national teams as I know you don't pay too much to domestic football that is not in craitland.
Oh, go on then. I do keep an eye out for Craitish players abroad though, it's just that a lot of them have come from League 1 (or lower), so I know how good they are anyway :P

Back to the original topic though; hardly any of the players above will have had statistics recorded before now unless by you. The only exceptions are possibly the Gerenian and Senyan couple I noticed, so that means most have just been made-up. I know you've probably tried to modify them to fit the players' abilities and likelihood of earning caps, but that's besides the point I'm making that people shouldn't be able to make-up data for other nations. Similar to how we don't permit non-nationals to invent club teams in other nations, or play internationals without permission from the opposing nation, then I think creating such statistics for someone else's players should not be allowed sans-permission either :)

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:20 pm
by vmsb123
So these would be considered void? And ill go ahead and PM you.

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:23 pm
by Craitman
Unless they were already recorded by their respective nations, unfortunately, yes. Thanks :)

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:41 pm
by vmsb123
But how do you get inactive nations players to be capped? Like Sarioglu obviously is Dura's best player at the moment, but he's not being called up? How does that work?

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:50 pm
by Craitman
It's not that he hasn't been called-up - he clearly has, he's like their only named professional player - but we can't guarantee the exact amount of caps and goals he's got. This is why on the player infobox I added the section about teams which the player has played for being emboldened; so even though the specific details aren't know, it's still possible to show that they have actually been capped :)

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:52 pm
by Senya
Craitman wrote:It's not that he hasn't been called-up - he clearly has, he's like their only named professional player - but we can't guarantee the exact amount of caps and goals he's got. This is why on the player infobox I added the section about teams which the player has played for being emboldened; so even though the specific details aren't know, it's still possible to show that they have actually been capped :)
And if they're from an awesome record-keeping nation like Senya or Gerenia (for example), then you can add the stats :D

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:56 pm
by Craitman
'Zactly. Glad to see more nations keeping track of these things though! Used to only be us and Hamland :P

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:57 pm
by vmsb123
Ha ok. Also sent the PM.

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:12 pm
by Gerenia
vmsb123 wrote:International caps dummy!
But Devona has never been called up dummy!

Re: Foreign Serie A/B Players: Caps and Goals

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:25 pm
by vmsb123
You said he had though? In the PM's.