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Dín Arrán
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Post by Dín Arrán » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:06 am

I hate modern warfare because I don't know anything about any of the modern weapons, so if I get something wrong, just point it out to me. Thanks.
1 aircraft carrier- 1,000

40 F-35 Lightning II Aircraft- 24,000
Aircraft carrier(1,000):
Standard Aircraft carrier with regular anti-aircraft guns and radar

Lightning II Aircraft(600):
A fifth-generation, single-seat, single-engine, stealth-capable military strike fighter, a multirole aircraft that can perform close air support, tactical bombing, and air superiority fighter missions. Mostly used against ground and sea targets, but can hold its own against a true fighter pilot, without the weight of the Lightning's bombs.

* Guns: 1 × GAU-22/A 25 mm (0.984 in) cannon — mounted internally with 180 rounds
* Hardpoints: 6× external pylons on wings with a capacity of 15,000 lb (6,800 kg)[31][126] and 2× internal bays with 2 pylons each,
* Missiles:
o Internal: 2 air-to-air missiles and 2 air-to-ground weapons.
o External: 4 air-to-ground weapons and 2 air-to-air missiles:
o Air-to-air missiles:
+ AIM-120 AMRAAM(1)
+ AIM-132 ASRAAM(1)
o Air-to-ground weapons:
+ AGM-154 JSOW(2)
+ AGM-158 JASSM(2)
Bombs:
o Mark 84 general purpose bombs
o Mark 83 GP bombs
o Mark 82 GP bombs
o Mk.20 Rockeye II cluster bomb
o Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser capable
o Paveway-series laser-guided bombs
o JDAM-series
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Post by Andreas the Wise » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:29 am

Didn't seem to be able to catch you to chat, so I'll post it here.

Infantry are fine. Normal aircraft carriers are only 1000, so by you costing it at 2000 I'll assume you intend for it to be very good AA/missile defence.

The planes are probably costed too low. Scott had flycycles, which are a similiar concept, costed at 10. Yours have considerably more weaponry. I'll let someone else pick a proper number, but I'd cost them higher.
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Post by extreme007 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:08 am

750 i think is what Montague used for the JSF, or the F-35 in your case. Same thing anyway.

And yes, if its 2,000 for the aircraft carrier, do tell why its so highly-rated. You have to declare it now rather than later.

Also, since the capital is currently under attack, you can't start there. Choose nearest friendly city. Storyish, Krerdar, Cride seem the available choices. Not sure if Ter-Sog (sounds Klignon) is on sea or inland. Looks inland to me.
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Post by Nicholas the Mad » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:17 am

I thought stealth fighters were 1200?
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Post by Andreas the Wise » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:23 am

If I'm reading the description right, these are very small planes, not full size aircraft ...
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Post by Lord_Montague » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:07 am

I had JSF at 500 (that's what a fighter's worth isn't it? I had it at standard fighter rate anyhow). I acknowledged that my ones could be picked up on radar when fully loaded though.
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Post by Lord_Montague » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:26 am

Lucifer wrote:they are defined in the anunia charter
What are? Your venom tanks? I think not.

Extreme and Jeremy are right regarding them being capable of travelling at 250mph. Its impossible.
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Post by extreme007 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:59 pm

What are? Your venom tanks? I think not.
No the other things that he didn't describe, like tanks, bombers etc...

Regarding the F-35, yeah if you want it stealthy then its 1,200. If you want it like just a normal aircraft (easily detectable on radar), then its 500.
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Dín Arrán
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Post by Dín Arrán » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:27 pm

1,200 per plane? well, let me crunch the numbers when I get home tonight(about 4 hours from now) I'll fix up the orbat and post my moves from there. For right now, I believe my troops are at the Tokish capital.
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Post by Demon of the North » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:34 pm

is 1200 for stealth fighters or for stealth bombers?

since im sure there is a distinction and an f-117 doesnt cost the same as a B-2
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Post by extreme007 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:44 pm

you are right... no one ever used a B-2 before. atleast not after the Jaris war, anyway.

i'd say the stealth bomber would be 1,500, given that the bomber itself is 1000.
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Lucifer
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Post by Lucifer » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:49 am

I never said the venom's were tanks...
armored vehicle is a rather broad term, let me elaborate, they're essentially moderately armored jeeps that have been set low to the ground to increase stability.
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Dín Arrán
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Post by Dín Arrán » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:29 am

Read the description. It isn't a full-out bomber, but does have precision bombing capabilities.
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Post by Voltear » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:19 am

80 T-Hawk Missle Bays(Alpha) (8000)

80 T-Hawk Missle Bays(Beta) (8000)

80 T-Hawk Missle Bays(Theta) (8000)

100 Infantry (100)

Total: 25000
::Definitions::

T-Hawk Missle Bay(Variant Alpha)
Worth:100
--Slow bulky armoured vehicle housing 10 alpha variant T-hawk missles. The alpha variant carries a kinetic armor piercing warhead housing an emp detonator. The emp detonation is so powerful that it effectivley disables all electronics in a given area for a given amount of time. Uses v5 TWCS control system.(most advanced)

T-Hawk Missle Bay(Variant Beta)
Worth:100
-Slow bulky armoured vehicle housing 10 Beta variant T-hawk missles. The beta variant has a armour piercing kinetic warhead. There is no armor that can withstand an impact from this missle. Contain 10 kg of franciam. Uses v5 TWCS control system.(most advanced)

T-Hawk Missle Bay(Variant Theta)
Worth: 100
-Slow bulky armoured vehicle housing 10 Theta variant T-hawk missles. The theta variant has a armour piercing encased hellfire warhead. Essentially, the warhead pierces the armor and explodes once inside. The hellfire explosive is of a thermobaric variant, meaning much more explosive than normal. Uses v5 TWCS control system.(most advanced)
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Dín Arrán
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Post by Dín Arrán » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:57 am

Ok completly reworked my orbit
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