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No he isn't. Lewis is a lie. It's Fact 86, apparentlySai'Kar wrote:Also, for someone who said they were leaving, you sure seem to still be here.
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Remember:Lewis wrote:I said I was leaving if there was no action taken against Kovac because we feel his actions against Hamland were unacceptable.
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2. The MCS shall be neutral in all policies and will refrain from taking action in any event or conflict between MCS member states.
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6. Members agree to not involve the MCS in territorial disputes or political disagreements. If a dispute arises, it is up to the parties involved to solve their issues outside of the MCS community.
So if you only want him banned for his "actions against Hamland", no can do. However, if there's something within the MCS boards you feel he should be banned for, tell us that instead...
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Re: Probably leaving
If you hate Kovacs to this extent, why not show it by invading him, rather than just wasting valuable time?! The way to show Kovacs that he "ain't all that" is by showing him the power-gap between Ocia and Hamland on the battlefield.
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Oh dear me.
That is NOT the purpose of recreational warfare. Clue's in the name.
That is NOT the purpose of recreational warfare. Clue's in the name.
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Oh I think you'll find that is recreational. Working out violent antipathies in a way that is both fictional and fun. Non-recreational would be killing him for real...
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I have looked into this, although I have to point out that this is not a political dispute because I have nothing against some of the members of Ocia. What Kovac did was go to a nation that made it clear we wanted to have nothing to do with him, and then make an action which was acting against the community of Hamland by trying to get our nation under his control for his own gain.Craitman wrote:Remember:Lewis wrote:I said I was leaving if there was no action taken against Kovac because we feel his actions against Hamland were unacceptable.
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2. The MCS shall be neutral in all policies and will refrain from taking action in any event or conflict between MCS member states.
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Responsibilities of Members
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6. Members agree to not involve the MCS in territorial disputes or political disagreements. If a dispute arises, it is up to the parties involved to solve their issues outside of the MCS community.
So if you only want him banned for his "actions against Hamland", no can do. However, if there's something within the MCS boards you feel he should be banned for, tell us that instead...
This is an act not against our political system, because we said that we didn't want to have anything to do with them. It's a problem of our community, and if communities in mirconations who don't want to take part in dirty micronationalism are going to be protected in some manner. If there is going to be no form of justice for those who have been at the receiving end of someone who abuses the system, then I feel that the MCS has a real problem.
I see that it's looking unlikely that I will get what I asked for, and I will say I was not bluffing to try and kick something into it, so I've decided to cease being the representative of Hamland at the MCS. This is mainly due to the fact I cannot bear to see Kovac about because he really spoils all this for me, and also because of the reasons I stated earlier. I will still be in Hamland if anyone wants to see me, and it's probably going to change beyond recognition by the end of the month anyway due to a large amount of new systems which have been developed being put into place.
As I said in the King's office, I'll still talk to anyone on MSN or off the MCS boards but I must stand for what I believe in and what I say I will do, so goodbye MCS. Expect someone different from Hamland to represent us from now on.
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He tried to annexe you when you didn't want to be? Sounds like a political dispute to me.Lewis wrote:I have looked into this, although I have to point out that this is not a political dispute because I have nothing against some of the members of Ocia. What Kovac did was go to a nation that made it clear we wanted to have nothing to do with him, and then make an action which was acting against the community of Hamland by trying to get our nation under his control for his own gain.
You keep seeing the MCS as being the police of micronationalism and the be-all and end-all of disputes and banning people. We're not. If you have a problem with anyone, that's your thing to sort, not ours. We're a cartography society (the hint's in the name), so all we're here to do is make maps. Our services stretch to giving everyone a forum to discuss things on and hosting other organisations. You asking us to settle any problem you have with Kovac is like Barack Obama asking Ordinance Survey to do something about the Taliban.
If, at any point, Kovac's (or anyone else's, for that matter) behaviour threatens the MCS itself, then he'll be banned. Until then, don't ask us to do anything about him when you can easily just ignore him or maybe even try to settle any exaggerated altercations yourselves (which I'd personally condone)...
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You keep seeing the MCS as being the police of micronationalism
I guess that might be down to the fact some might see the MCS as.. I dnno.. a centre point to micronations. A community centre, if you will. Where micronationalists can go and get to know each other . If you can't go to your local community centre and have a moan about things, where can you go? In.. a world where.. theres just your 'house' and the centre on the street... >.>..<.<.. In fact, I was going to depict it that way in my comic. But I lost my writer
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Oh, we're fine with moaning but being given an ultimatum to do things we don't do (and even point-out in the charter that we don't), that's what we're less keen onArtz wrote:If you can't go to your local community centre and have a moan about things, where can you go?
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Ultimatums are annoying.. pointing out in the charter should be tolerated though.. as if the charter isn't up to scratch, it'll need to be adapted for the better, on whatever is decided.. right?Craitman wrote:Oh, we're fine with moaning but being given an ultimatum to do things we don't do (and even point-out in the charter that we don't), that's what we're less keen onArtz wrote:If you can't go to your local community centre and have a moan about things, where can you go?
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Sorry, what? The charter should be tolerated? Surely you mean the charter should be read, understood and followed by everyone before they start asking us to do something we don't do?